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Title: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on May 29, 2015, 08:26:18 AM
I'm thinking about going. This is the new 2mi course I believe which I've been told is tighter and slower. Anyone interested?
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on May 29, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
Hmm... I may have some interest. I've been on the fence about doing a track day maybe it's time to give it a shot.

If you do go are you thinking both days or just one?
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on May 29, 2015, 09:02:10 AM
Probably just one day. I need to get a day in before I go to miller to get my chops up. We can car pool if you decide to go.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on May 29, 2015, 09:10:45 AM
I can't make that one. But the west course is super fun.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on May 29, 2015, 09:16:51 AM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on May 29, 2015, 09:02:10 AM
Probably just one day. I need to get a day in before I go to miller to get my chops up. We can car pool if you decide to go.

That's sounding even more appealing, let me think it over for a second and make sure I can fit it in my schedule and I'll let you know soon.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on May 29, 2015, 10:31:08 AM
Alright, I'm able to work it into my schedule. I'm in!

I have a camping trip the following week so I'd prefer Thursday to allow more time in between to get ready but I can do either day if Friday is better for you or anyone else that wants to go.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on May 29, 2015, 12:20:21 PM
Awesome, give me another day to make sure the minister of war and finance approves the trip. I'll post up tomorrow and then we should buy our spots asap so they don't sell out
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on May 31, 2015, 08:29:08 AM
Ok, one more day and I will know for sure. If I have to do Friday is that an option for you? I've got a camping trip with my dad for Father's Day the following weekend so trying to get everything sync' up.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on May 31, 2015, 08:19:34 PM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on May 31, 2015, 08:29:08 AM
Ok, one more day and I will know for sure. If I have to do Friday is that an option for you? I've got a camping trip with my dad for Father's Day the following weekend so trying to get everything sync' up.

No problem. I can do either day, if Friday is better for you I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 01, 2015, 12:52:32 PM
Ok, Friday it is! I'm logging on now to make sure they arn t sold out.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 01, 2015, 01:04:11 PM
Sounds good. I just purchased c group for Friday 6/19.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 01, 2015, 01:25:38 PM
Any suggestions on the tire situation? I haven't done a track day yet on a bike.

I currently have Bridgestone S20's with about 1500 miles on them.

Will one track day burn through a set of tires, should I get a fresh set on when it gets closer?
If so I was thinking of trying the BT003's, seem to be good bang for the buck based on reviews I've read.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 01, 2015, 10:38:10 PM
Awesome! I'm signed up also. I'm not familiar with the bridge stones, I'd try to roast em as much as possible and then get a new set for the track if you have funds available. The Q3's are hard to beat. I just read a tire shoutout and they basically killed every other tire except the Pirelli supercorsas. But the pirellis are way more expensive and don't last nearly as long. Another nice thing about the Q3 is it heats up faster than any other tires, so it's safer. This is all based on cross over tires btw, not dedicated track or road. I'll see if I can dig up the review. I just bought a set of Q3's for under $250 shipped. They last me about 2500 miles on the street.

So this is your first ever track day, correct?
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 01, 2015, 11:01:45 PM
Not bad $250 it's comparable if not better than the bt003, where'd you get them from? I was thinking id just keep using what i have for the street and get something more track oriented for the track day and if my current tires are not used up I'll just set them aside
and use them up later.

yes this it's my first track day on a bike. Been to quite a few in a car but none on a bike yet.

Any advise it's more than welcomed.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: RichVee4 on June 02, 2015, 06:52:42 AM
Quote from: slmoto on June 01, 2015, 01:25:38 PM
Any suggestions on the tire situation? I haven't done a track day yet on a bike.

I currently have Bridgestone S20's with about 1500 miles on them.

Will one track day burn through a set of tires, should I get a fresh set on when it gets closer?
If so I was thinking of trying the BT003's, seem to be good bang for the buck based on reviews I've read.

You guys are going to have so much fun, wish I could go but I will be in TX for 3 weeks.  I used my t30's at the track day and I didn't have any problems with grip, harder rubber than the s20.  With the duel compound tires the side rubber gets nice and tacky at temp.  Be sure to set the pressure correct for the track and give them a couple laps to heat up.   It certainly helped wear down the rubber on the side but was still able to still use them for the OoB ride and the tires weren't new before the trackday.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: GreenMachine on June 02, 2015, 07:46:05 AM
Pretty much what Rich said.  He was there in April and you'll be there in mid-June.  Big difference in how much hotter the surface temperatures are going to be.  I melted my street tires pretty good after only a few sessions.  By the end of the day, the tires were almost half gone.  They were all gooey and gummed up <here (http://www.sierrasportbike.com/smf/index.php?topic=4014.msg37639#msg37639)>.  I didn't feel like I was stressing them much either.  It must have been all the hard braking and my obsession with bending the bike on its side every chance I had.  That's the fun part after all!!  I was on the original course.

I'd think if you were thinking total grip, that slicks would be best, but probably of some harder compound, similar to street or touring.  Then get tire warmers so you don't have to waste two laps each session warming them up.  Plus there's the heat cycle problem with them, in that they don't work best going hot cold hot cold, etc... all day long.  So I've heard.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 02, 2015, 07:49:14 AM
This is going to be a great day. Cmon, we need more SSA members representing!

On tires, it really depends how hard you want to ride. If you just want to cruise around the track and have fun, you'll probably be fine on the tires you have as long as they have 40% or more life left in em. But if you want to start exploring hard braking, higher corner speed, and getting on the gas early then you are going to be better off on a new tire.

On bike prep, I think precision has a link on their website. The main things are putting distilled water plus water wetter in your radiator, and make sure your throttle snaps back by itself when you let go. Other than that just make sure your bike is in good repair. Check brake pads, sprockets, etc for wear.

Let me know if you need help with anything. I've got some new parts coming for the CBR so I'm going to be doing some wrenching soon. Probly mid next week. I'll also have some Isle of Man recorded soon. If that doesn't get you excited for a track day then you have serious issues.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 02, 2015, 08:16:04 AM
Thanks guys.

I've read the Precision bike and rider prep, pretty much got everything covered just need to do the radiator fluid switch and I wanted to check the wear on my brake pads.

For tires I'm probably going to try the Q3's or BT003's. I'll just use the new tires for the track, seems like either of those tire choices wear fast on the street. If they do well and I feel like I want to do more track days I may just set them aside afterwards and save the rest of them for another day.

TB, where did you get the Q3's for under $250?

Isle of Man would be nice to watch, didn't even know it was up until you mentioned it.

Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 02, 2015, 08:52:57 AM
I bought from Rocky Mountain ATV. They were on my doorstep 48 hours later. Place is legit.

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/750/42675/Dunlop-Sportmax-Q3-Radial-Rear-Motorcycle-Tire?term=dunlop%20q3
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 02, 2015, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 02, 2015, 08:52:57 AM
I bought from Rocky Mountain ATV. They were on my doorstep 48 hours later. Place is legit.

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/750/42675/Dunlop-Sportmax-Q3-Radial-Rear-Motorcycle-Tire?term=dunlop%20q3


Thanks, I'm going to grab a set. If they're good enough for you, I'm sure they'll be more than good enough for me and they're slightly cheaper than the BT003's anyway so can't complain about that.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 02, 2015, 10:05:41 AM
Make sure you get the right size. Mine is a 190/55 which is probably a bit more money than yours
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 02, 2015, 10:07:46 AM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 02, 2015, 10:05:41 AM
Make sure you get the right size. Mine is a 190/55 which is probably a bit more money than yours

Yeah, mine is only 180 in the rear, came in well under $250 at only $226 for the set.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 02, 2015, 10:11:39 AM
Damn, that's a deal! The benefits of a 600. You're not gonna want to go back to inferior tires after you get used to these.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 02, 2015, 10:20:46 AM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 02, 2015, 10:11:39 AM
You're not gonna want to go back to inferior tires after you get used to these.

That's the scary part. I was good with the Pilot Power 3's getting a good 8k miles, now you're going to get me hooked these and changing tires every couple thousand miles.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 02, 2015, 10:26:57 AM
You'll probly get 3500 cause your bike is lighter. I think it's a small price to pay to have some extra grip. Might just be the little extra bit you need to avoid a crash.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: GreenMachine on June 03, 2015, 07:36:18 AM
You know.  If we had some live feeds from the IoM practice sessions, that would be awesome. 

On a whim, I checked SL's WSBK YT link and it's already been flagged.  So that one is down for WSBK.  All I can find media-wise on IoM are interviews about how windy it was there yesterday.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 03, 2015, 08:01:37 AM
Quote from: GreenMachine on June 03, 2015, 07:36:18 AM
You know.  If we had some live feeds from the IoM practice sessions, that would be awesome. 

On a whim, I checked SL's WSBK YT link and it's already been flagged.  So that one is down for WSBK.  All I can find media-wise on IoM are interviews about how windy it was there yesterday.
Try searching wsbk round ## (Whatever round you're looking for) you may find new links. Their yp channels get blocked then they usually just pop up under a different channel.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 03, 2015, 09:36:13 AM
Velocity is airing IOM footage. It's not live and isn't until next weekend but it's better than nothing.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on June 11, 2015, 09:58:02 AM
These dates are cancelled; Precision has gone out of business. If you guys bought after May 26th, you will get a refund. Otherwise you will get credit of equal value towards a PTT event.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/precision-trackdays/announcement-precision-trackdays-closing-grows-stronger/1046528508705821

Precision Trackdays
Sacramento, Ca
6/11/2015


Public Announcement:


It is with sadness and great difficulty that we announce the closure of Precision Trackdays. We have had some of the best and most memorable experiences with our family of staff and customers since the days of riding at Reno-Fernley Raceway in Nevada. Our thanks go out to all of our loyal supporters, vendors, businesses and of course, our amazing staff that have worked so hard to bring us to a stronger existence within the Northern California track day market.  Though closure is inevitably a failure, we have achieved many successes along the way. In 2014 we moved from Nevada to California to keep our family of riders together after the local track became unsuitable for motorcycle use. Our goal from that point was to maintain the extremely family friendly, non-competitive and safe environment that Precision was known for. With minimal accidents and new customers coming on board, we accomplished this goal. The number of events increased as accidents decreased due to our intense focus on the customer experience. In 2014, our staff went racing and earned multiple AFM novice and expert championships and podiums which gave us credibility among the more established track day providers in the area. In 2015, we have had zero red flags or track stoppages. Nothing but fun on two wheels. We succeeded at everything we could control. We could not have done this without the dedication of our staff, vendors and the awesome customers that choose to ride with Precision, maintaining an appropriate mind-set for track day riding. While we exceeded expectations in so many areas, scheduling and a very competitive market created a financial hardship. Passion for helping others is what got us this far and passion is what will help us to move forward to better days. Thank you all for riding with Precision.

While Precision Trackdays is closing, we have not lost a home but have gained amazing, passionate family with a successful track day provider. Ken Casey of Pacific Track Time, not purchasing Precision Trackdays, has agreed to help take care of our customer base and provide a home for our Precision staff and customers which includes season pass holders, 4 pack holders, people that have prepaid and everyone else that loves to ride with
Precision. You won't find many people more dedicated to the rider community than Ken and the respect we have for his commitment to the sport is the reason we are 100% confident and so excited about this affiliation. Adding some of Precision's strengths to the Pacific Track Time events, the result should be nothing short of amazing. Many of our PTD staff will be switching vests (Yes, Ethan will be riding again) and we will continue with our track day barbeques, fun family environment and large support groups for the racers... but even better! Circumstances are not ideal but this move is in the right direction and we are super excited about the upcoming events with PTT. Please stay tuned for future announcements as we look forward to riding with all of our friends. You are sure to like the fun and exciting events that PTT puts on.

If you have purchased a Precision Trackdays season pass, 4 pack, gift card or have registered for a future event you will be contacted shortly (over the next few business days). We are working diligently to ensure that everyone is take care of. Anyone who has made a purchase on May 26th or later will be receiving a refund while purchases made earlier will be receiving a gift of equal value from our friends at PTT. No other provider has a heart that big and we are amazed at the support from all PTT. Thank you, Ken, for your generosity and friendship.

In closing, we appreciate your patience as we navigate this transition and contact everyone that has pre-paid. We would like to encourage everyone to join us and ride with Pacific Track Time.

You can view Pacific Track Time's schedule and register for events at www.PacificTrackTime.com.

Please like the PTT Facebook page www.facebook.com/PacificTrackTime and join the PTT fan page www.facebook.com/groups/PacificTrackTimeFanClub so we can stay connected, meet more awesome friends and ride together!

For questions and additional information you can reach Ken or Ethan directly. (Ken@pacifictracktime.com, Ethan@PrecisionTD.com)


Thank you!
Ethan Nutter
Precision Trackdays

Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 11, 2015, 10:15:02 AM
Well, that's a bummer. Thanks for posting. Seems like track day promotion is a tough business to keep going.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on June 11, 2015, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: slmoto on June 11, 2015, 10:15:02 AM
Well, that's a bummer. Thanks for posting. Seems like track day promotion is a tough business to keep going.

There is no doubt from anyone that Precision put on an excellent trackday.
The problem that led to this was just that they were a newcomer to the game, so they didn't have the clout to get the premium dates from the tracks. All the tracks in NorCal, are pretty much booked solid all season.
At Thunderhill, for example, they have the track rented out an average of 325 days every year! Think about it: you have PTT, Z2, K@TT, PTD, NCRC, AFM all looking to book good dates at Thill, and those are just the motorcycle organizers. Then add in the cars; Trackmasters, NCRC, Hooked on Driving, NASA, SCCA, Car Clubs all trying to get the same dates. And those are just the major car/bike organizers. Add in all the private people/organizations looking to put on a trackday for their members/friends, THEN add in all the companies looking to book the track for non-public events. Manufacturer testing, media testing, private events, etc. Thunderhill has a client list of 76 organizations. And they are all fighting for 4 weekends a month.
You can put on the best trackday event in the world, but if most of your dates are on a monday/tuesday, or thursday/friday, when people have to go to work, the lower attendance just can't support continuted operations.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 11, 2015, 11:26:39 AM
When you put it that way sounds like NorCal needs another track. 325 ave per year sounds pretty amazing, I wouldn't have guessed it to be that high.

The company that ran the track days I used to go to for cars at Willow Springs probably ran into the same issues. Most of the track days I went to were on the weekdays, I liked them since they were less expensive and seemed to have less idiot drivers than on the weekends but obviously weekdays are not ideal for the masses. I don't know if they are still around but I know they were struggling when I used to go back in the day.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
Nooooo! Damn, PTT is way more expensive. Maybe that's why they are still in biz
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 12:22:23 PM
Ok, I signed up for the following weekend with Keigwins. I did Sunday (full course!), B group. It's almost full so better hurry if you want in.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 12:31:21 PM
Dub, I'm trying to do at least one a month. I'm looking at ZZ, Keigwins, and Pacific TT. Any others I should be checking out? I didn't recognize some of the names you posted above. Advice to keep costs down?
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 11, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 12:22:23 PM
Ok, I signed up for the following weekend with Keigwins. I did Sunday (full course!), B group. It's almost full so better hurry if you want in.

I'm going to pass, looks like B group is the lowest they offer that day and I have no track experience on a motorcycle.

Have fun, maybe I'll catch up with you on one of the other track days if you do start doing them one a month.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 01:23:09 PM
Bummer! Well Take a look at The three providers we are left with and if you find a day that works let me know and I'll try to make it work. I am going to be at Miller with Apex track days on July 24th. Over the next year or so I'm hoping to do Laguna, and Cota. Those are serious bucket list tracks!
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: RichVee4 on June 11, 2015, 03:39:19 PM
Bummed to hear about Precision, didn't see that coming.  They seemed to have a good turnout at the events I attended and well run program.  I'm sure it was a difficult decision and wish everyone well.   Was looking forward to future events with them...
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: GreenMachine on June 11, 2015, 07:37:24 PM
I wouldn't have thunk with the numbers they were getting, even during the heat of the summer.

We need to help get a C group day or half-(C) day & half-(B) day under SL's belt.  He's ready.  And if you guys can share travel costs, that would be the way to go.  Heck, I've fancied doing Laguna Seca some day too, but it's not really something I have to do.  I'd actually be more interested in doing Sears Point.  But I don't have to do that either.  :-\

I just like riding.  It doesn't have to be fast.

Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 11, 2015, 09:04:40 PM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 01:23:09 PM
Bummer! Well Take a look at The three providers we are left with and if you find a day that works let me know and I'll try to make it work. I am going to be at Miller with Apex track days on July 24th. Over the next year or so I'm hoping to do Laguna, and Cota. Those are serious bucket list tracks!

Thanks. I have a lot of money going out in July and Aug with some other trips coming up so I'm not sure I'll be able to make those months but I'll keep an eye out and see if I can't work something in, if I can I'll let you know.

I always wanted to go do Laguna when I was doing car track days, unfortunately I was in southern California at the time and ended up getting out of the whole car thing when I moved back north. That would be an awesome track to do, that's a good goal to have, makes me want to get some track time in even more to get the point where I could handle Laguna and have fun.

Quote from: GreenMachine on June 11, 2015, 07:37:24 PM
We need to help get a C group day or half-(C) day & half-(B) day under SL's belt.  He's ready.  And if you guys can share travel costs, that would be the way to go.  Heck, I've fancied doing Laguna Seca some day too, but it's not really something I have to do.  I'd actually be more interested in doing Sears Point.  But I don't have to do that either.  :-\

I just like riding.  It doesn't have to be fast.

I'll get there eventually. I don't necessarily have a great desire to go fast. What I was looking forward to the track for was to be able to do the same turns over and over where you can make adjustments and improve each time. But hey, going isn't the worst feeling either. ;D
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 09:34:20 PM
track days aren't about speed. If you want speed go to the salt flats. Track is about the craft of riding a motorcycle to its limits
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 11, 2015, 09:44:02 PM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 09:34:20 PM
track days aren't about speed. If you want speed go to the salt flats. Track is about the craft of riding a motorcycle to its limits

Well said.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 09:46:29 PM
The fast parts are actually my least favorite part of doing track days. It scares me when I get over 140 and the bike is still pulling! Give me a tight track any day.
Title: 3, 2, 1
Post by: GreenMachine on June 11, 2015, 10:33:39 PM
Mel, should be along anytime now, commenting on what kind of sissy would be scared of doing 140 MPH on two wheels.  Heck, in his day they did that on one, on goat roads, in the rain.

I'm in so much trouble!   :hiding
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on June 12, 2015, 02:19:03 AM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
Nooooo! Damn, PTT is way more expensive. Maybe that's why they are still in biz

That's because they get good dates. The track charges more to rent on more desirable days.

Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 11, 2015, 12:31:21 PM
Dub, I'm trying to do at least one a month. I'm looking at ZZ, Keigwins, and Pacific TT. Any others I should be checking out? I didn't recognize some of the names you posted above. Advice to keep costs down?

Best advice to keep costs down is doing weekdays. NCRC is a car club that has a moto run group at some of their events. It's only $99, but you get less sessions. http://www.ncracing.org/events.php

Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 12, 2015, 05:37:40 AM
I checked out their site. It's a little confusing but it's good to have another option. Not sure what "point by" means. Dub, what are your track plans in light of recent events? Any ptt days coming up?
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 16, 2015, 12:02:21 PM
Calling Dub! Need info.. There are no track days in any of the providers for the west course that I can find. Do you know if PTT will be picking up any of the precision days that were scheduled?
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on June 16, 2015, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 12, 2015, 05:37:40 AM
I checked out their site. It's a little confusing but it's good to have another option. Not sure what "point by" means. Dub, what are your track plans in light of recent events? Any ptt days coming up?

Point by is a car run group. The car in front of of you actually has to point your by before you can pass. Crazy, huh? NCRC just does one moto group, so all skill levels are out on track at the same time. But they ask that no beginners show up. You get less sessions per day, and the wait between going out on track is longer, because there are like 4-5 car groups, but the price reflects this.

I'll be coaching for Keigwins going forward.

Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 16, 2015, 12:02:21 PM
Calling Dub! Need info.. There are no track days in any of the providers for the west course that I can find. Do you know if PTT will be picking up any of the precision days that were scheduled?

I think all of Precision's dates were just surrendered back to the track, and anyone who wanted could pick them up. I noticed one of the weekends later in the year was snatched up by Keigwins. If PTT didn't want them, they didn't take them. It's likely they didn't want them, most weren't great dates, which was kind of the problem in the first place.

I don't know of any dates on the West course off the top of my head. I don't think anyone really likes it as much. Precision were really the only ones with regular events there, and that's just cause we couldn't get more 3 mile weekend dates.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on June 16, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
Here's an open day on the 2 mile. https://www.facebook.com/events/455841264580696/
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 16, 2015, 09:33:25 PM
Thanks, I'm still going to be in Utah then or I would be going. Post up again if you come across another day.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on June 17, 2015, 07:53:53 PM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 16, 2015, 09:33:25 PM
Thanks, I'm still going to be in Utah then or I would be going. Post up again if you come across another day.

Oh yeah, duh.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on June 22, 2015, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on June 16, 2015, 09:33:25 PMPost up again if you come across another day.

Here's another one. $150 for East Course on a Monday. http://www.eventbrite.com/e/15000-fun-track-dayz-thunderhill-raceway-3-mile-august-3rd-tickets-17436531134
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 22, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
That's a great price. I might have to do this one
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 25, 2015, 04:37:27 PM
Triple digits at T hill this weekend. I guess I won't have trouble getting my tires up to operating temps.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on June 25, 2015, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: dub on June 22, 2015, 01:57:25 PM
Here's another one. $150 for East Course on a Monday. http://www.eventbrite.com/e/15000-fun-track-dayz-thunderhill-raceway-3-mile-august-3rd-tickets-17436531134

TB, still considering this one? It's on my radar, they have a beginners group and the price is good. Too soon for me to pull the trigger, I need to see what my work schedule is looking like a little further into July but if it's something you're considering I'll keep an eye on the availability.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on June 25, 2015, 07:24:31 PM
Sounds good, I'll check back in when it's closer.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on July 22, 2015, 07:14:44 AM
TB, looks like there is still plenty of room left in all classes. I'm down to go if you're interested.

Early bird special ends on 7/24 then the price goes up from $150 to $180.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on July 22, 2015, 07:17:15 AM
Ok, I'll make a decision by end of day tomorrow.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: GreenMachine on July 22, 2015, 07:48:45 AM
WTH?  They have three groups and not one of them includes B.  Unless CRUZIN' is considered intermediate, but then it says it includes beginners.  :headscratch  Lumping beginners and intermediates will probably make both sets of riding groups uncomfortable with the other on the track.  You'll never know who you're coming up on or riding with.  Is the other rider going to park it in the corner or brake unnecessarily, not knowing others may be going 50 MPH faster than them and not expecting erratic behavior?  Hopefully group size will be minimal and everyone will have their cushion.

Glad I'm retired from all this.
QuoteEXTREME
Extreme Group - Intended for very experienced track riders and racers. No restrictions are placed on safe inside and outside passes.

ADVANCED
Advanced Group - Intended for experienced track riders and riders who have a a bit of competitive edge. With a 6 foot safety cushion safe passing is allowed on inside /outside, left to right and front to back.

CRUZIN'
Intended for beginner track riders and/or those looking to ride in a NON competitive atmosphere. Inside and outside passing, left to right and front to back passing is permitted with an 8 foot cushion.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on July 22, 2015, 08:03:01 AM
I interpret that the same as A B C groups.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on July 22, 2015, 08:42:29 AM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on July 22, 2015, 08:03:01 AM
I interpret that the same as A B C groups.

That's how I saw it too.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on July 22, 2015, 09:59:43 AM
Enter promo code "Friends" and it's only $112.50.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on July 22, 2015, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: dub on July 22, 2015, 09:59:43 AM
Enter promo code "Friends" and it's only $112.50.

:o
And I was thinking $150 was already a great price, even better. Thanks!
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on July 31, 2015, 07:33:43 AM
Ok, I'm definitely not going to make this day. Not on,y am I still broke from miller, but my ribs are still pretty fd up. I'm thinking about the Zoomzoom day at t hill on August 22/23. It's definitely more money, but given the cost of everything else (gas, tires, lodging, etc), the actual track fee isn't that significant imo. They have a C group, and it is the weekend.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: GreenMachine on July 31, 2015, 08:09:31 AM
This thread is so jacked!  You might be able to get more input to an August track day by starting a thread that is reflective of that.  Burying info in one about a June day seems confusing.   :2cents  I'm surprised Dub hasn't chastised you yet for such a minor forum faux-pas.

Ribs:  Oh I know all too well.  But you can't blame me.  Your bikes tend to fall over when ridden, something you don't have labeled on them.  I found that out the hard way.  If you cracked yours like I did mine, it'll be months before they'll start to feel better.  I found that the less I stressed them (by riding & exercise), the quicker they healed.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on July 31, 2015, 08:13:42 AM
No problem, rest up.

I can't make the 22nd/23rd, got some people visiting from our of town, thanks though. Definitely a bonus when the track fee is cheap but i agree fairly insignificant compared to the total cost of everything.

My schedule and funds start getting cramped in sept. as i start ramping up my business for the holiday season so i may end up just waiting until next season. If i come across any days that work before then I'll post up and see if you or anyone is interested.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: slmoto on July 31, 2015, 08:24:32 AM
Quote from: GreenMachine on July 31, 2015, 08:09:31 AM
This thread is so jacked!  You might be able to get more input to an August track day by starting a thread that is reflective of that.  Burying info in one about a June day seems confusing.   :2cents  I'm surprised Dub hasn't chastised you yet for such a minor forum faux-pas.

You're right, its just the conversation started from this post and kept going. If i start looking again for a track day I'll start a new post.  :hiding

Plus this post has all the track promoters dub compiled to reference. Good info, maybe that'd make for a good sticky topic for the track section?
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on July 31, 2015, 09:04:00 AM
How do you start a new thread? I'll message RG500nut to see if he can explain it to me.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: GreenMachine on July 31, 2015, 09:49:30 AM
How about I start a blog and called it "whyUguysSuck.com."  Then put all this threadjacked crap in it.  :evil1

You guys are killing me.  :-*
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on July 31, 2015, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: GreenMachine on July 31, 2015, 08:09:31 AM
This thread is so jacked!  You might be able to get more input to an August track day by starting a thread that is reflective of that.  Burying info in one about a June day seems confusing.   :2cents  I'm surprised Dub hasn't chastised you yet for such a minor forum faux-pas.

Quote from: slmoto on July 31, 2015, 08:24:32 AMYou're right, its just the conversation started from this post and kept going. If i start looking again for a track day I'll start a new post.  :hiding

Plus this post has all the track promoters dub compiled to reference. Good info, maybe that'd make for a good sticky topic for the track section?

GM, you should just change the title to "2015 Trackdays Thread" and we can keep it a running discussion.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on July 31, 2015, 09:58:29 AM
I do like a single thread because everyone gets an email notice when there is a new post. Just sayin
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: GreenMachine on July 31, 2015, 10:01:22 AM
E-mail!  You guys use them?  I look as those as annoyances and have them filtered and deleted as they come in.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on July 31, 2015, 10:02:36 AM
Well, I use them. Otherwise I may go a week or two without checking in.
Title: Re: T Hill June 18/19
Post by: dub on July 31, 2015, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on July 31, 2015, 07:33:43 AMI'm thinking about the Zoomzoom day at t hill on August 22/23. It's definitely more money, but given the cost of everything else (gas, tires, lodging, etc), the actual track fee isn't that significant imo. They have a C group, and it is the weekend.

Saturday is the Full course and Sunday is the 3 mile (in case you didn't see that). Use promo code "SCR" for $15 off each day.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on July 31, 2015, 10:31:37 AM
Would be a lot of fun to run the full course. I'll check back in a bit to see how I'm healing up. You have any track days planned dub?
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on July 31, 2015, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: Tahoebrian5 on July 31, 2015, 10:31:37 AMYou have any track days planned dub?

Keigwins @ Sears Point, Monday 8/17. Have you ridden Sears? You will like it because it is tight and technical. Much lower speeds than Thunderhill 3 mile course.

Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: Tahoebrian5 on July 31, 2015, 11:08:39 AM
I've not, but it's on my short list of things to do. I do like tight n slow better than high speed! I'm working on getting set up with generator and tire warmers. Also got aGPX Pro lap timer and data acquisition setup sitting in my garage ready to install. I'll see if I can make it. Any recommendations for tire warmers? Do I need dual temps or will I be fine with a single temp?.. Maybe the motoZ brand.. has pretty good reviews for less money than the big names.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on July 31, 2015, 06:04:29 PM
You know what dual temp is good for? Turning them down to low at lunch then forgetting about it until 3 minutes before your session.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on October 05, 2015, 12:06:00 PM
I'll be at Thunderhill (3 mile east course) Oct 17/18 with Keigwins if anyone else wants to come get some track time as the season winds down.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: GreenMachine on October 06, 2015, 07:57:11 AM
Way better weatherwise for that time of the year than July.  For those wanting to up their skills, this would be the time and Dub would be the guy to show the proper lines on track.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: slmoto on October 06, 2015, 09:05:58 AM
Quote from: dub on October 05, 2015, 12:06:00 PM
I'll be at Thunderhill (3 mile east course) Oct 17/18 with Keigwins if anyone else wants to come get some track time as the season winds down.

I'm tempted, I'll have to see if I can work it out.

Dub, I notice they don't offer a C group, from what you've seen of my riding do you think I could manage the B- group or should I keep looking for a C group first? I have some track experience in a car so I'm somewhat familiar with the format but I haven't been to the track yet on a motorcycle and I don't want to be in peoples way if I'm not up to pace for a B- group.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on October 06, 2015, 02:37:02 PM
Keigwins used to not take riders without previous track experience. That's why they called it the B- group; it was supposed to denote a step up from C group. However, that is no longer the case. It's just a C group by another name. I guarantee you wont be the slowest rider there.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: GreenMachine on October 06, 2015, 02:57:17 PM
Given that he doesn't crash or hasn't yet on the street, despite lots of opportunities, and he followed Dragon and I on Hwy1 Leggett, I'd say he's in the C+ territory.   Better than most C's, just needs to get comfortable with braking & apexing his bike on the fast line around others doing the same.

If it's as Dub says, this would be an excellent opportunity to go.

Oh help us all after Oct 18th though if you do.   :terrified  I'll sweep from now on.  ;)

:grnbike          :ylwbike2

Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: slmoto on October 06, 2015, 03:51:29 PM
Thanks for the clarification. I'm going to try and make it but I won't know for sure until later in the week.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on October 06, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
Let me know if you're gonna come; we'll pit together.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: slmoto on October 06, 2015, 07:21:35 PM
Sounds good. I'll let you know. I'm waiting on supplies for a large order I need to get out prior to that date. If the supplies come before this Friday I can go if not I'm going to have to pass. I'll let you know how it pans out by the end of this Friday.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: slmoto on October 09, 2015, 06:41:10 PM
No luck on UPS today, I'm going to have to pass I'll most likely be working that weekend now. :'(

Are you going to be at any of the Nov. dates at Thunderhill?

I'm kind of eyeing the Laguna Seca days, I usually go back to the Bay Area for Thanksgiving so it would be an easy one for me to get to. Would it be a bad idea to do Laguna Seca as a first track day? I get kind of intimidated because it's such an iconic track but it's still just a track just like any other, no?
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on October 09, 2015, 09:39:48 PM
No, I don't think I'll be able to make any of those days. 11/21 & 22 is possible; depends on when the ski resorts open up. This next weekend might be my last time on track for this season. It will be day number 23 & 24.

No reason Laguna can't be your first; go for it.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: GreenMachine on November 11, 2015, 09:39:32 PM
I understand there's some video footage pending from Saturday.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: slmoto on November 11, 2015, 10:02:03 PM
Quote from: GreenMachine on November 11, 2015, 09:39:32 PM
I understand there's some video footage pending from Saturday.

If you're referring to RG and I you'll have to ask him. And, good luck with him actually seeing this post...
I took a couple pics but nothing too exciting.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on November 12, 2015, 12:50:16 PM
Oh you got in last weekend? How was it?
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: slmoto on November 12, 2015, 01:53:21 PM
Yeah, some spots opened up and they were able to get us in.

I had a great time, already looking forward to doing more track days. Was kind of nervous the first couple sessions but started learning the track by the end of the second session and was able to pick up the pace on the third and forth session and was feeling really good. Took the last session with an instructor to see where I could improve. Picked up some pointers from the instructor, talked to him after and he suggested I move up to B group next time so I may give B a try or maybe start in C and move to B after a session or two.

Did have one close call where another rider right in front of me clipped the curb on top of the hill at turn 9 and lost it, I almost grabbed the brake in reaction but luckily was able to sit up and slow down enough not to run the rider over as he slid across the track in front of me and luckily didn't go down with him.

Overall had a great time and most importantly left all in one piece, both me and the bike.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on November 12, 2015, 06:42:45 PM
Sweet
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: RichVee4 on November 12, 2015, 06:57:15 PM
Congrats!  T-Hill I presume, full course or east/west?   Glad you had a fun and safe outing.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: slmoto on November 12, 2015, 10:51:50 PM
Thanks. T-hill east. Def was a good time...
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: dub on November 16, 2015, 09:05:57 PM
The weather looks like it's gonna be awesome. I'm not 100% confirmed yet, but I think I'm gonna go to Thunderhill this weekend. Still space in all groups.
Title: Re: 2015 Trackday Thread
Post by: slmoto on November 16, 2015, 10:13:06 PM
Damn, so tempting, I'd love to get back to the track again so soon but I think I'm going to have to stick around town and just do some dirt riding and get some other things done around home and work.

Have fun if you do make it.