Sorry to inform the club members that RFR is not scheduled to open in 2010. As much as I hate to post this. I feel I must. We as a club have come very far. I would like for us to go even further as a Motorcycle club. The economics of these past years I believe have taken it's grip on our home track. I will see if there are some other options we can pursue as a Motorcycle club.
The track was a wonderful venue for all of us to get together and enjoy our machines. We have made a lot of good friends doing the Track thing. Great memories of Some wonderful times we have had are all associated with the Track. I would hate to see all of this come to an end. If we can stay optimistic I believe we can find a way to keep all this going. I'm sure it will take some effort. So let's look at this as an opportunity. Not a set back.
We will be having a General club meeting in December. We are looking at the first Sunday in December but it's not for sure yet. We're waiting for Alberto to confirm. Please keep all your thoughts and comments positive. So we can find a way to stay on track.
Jerome. Matter cannot neither be created nor destroyed.
Nothing is lost, this is just a new opportunity presenting itself. We'll figure out what it is, and then ride the CRAP OUT OF IT.
Quote from: Justino on November 12, 2009, 12:22:23 AM
Jerome. Matter cannot neither be created nor destroyed.
Nothing is lost, this is just a new opportunity presenting itself. We'll figure out what it is, and then ride the CRAP OUT OF IT.
THIS!!!Amen bruddah. Let's all figure this out and keep riding!
Bummer sorry Jerome I will try to post positive next time. I had my entire work schedule changed just for track days. I ended up with a bunch of closing shifts with Sunday and Monday off. I hate closing
Positive post ;D
I do own a motor home and can travel, I can take riders But, I don't have a trailer for bikes.
are we reading too much into this, it says closed indef while they restructure over the winter. does that mean that its just closed for the winter (since they cant staff during the winter ) and will reopen for summer? the post kind of reads funny.
It sucks, but there are still at least 5 tracks less than 8 hours away. Maybe this will push some of the guys that have only ridden RFR to try different tracks. Like Justino said, let's look at this as an opportunity.
I hope they will close RFR only for the winter. I'll miss it a lot if they close for the summer too.
Well, let's wait to the summer start. We don't usually to ride on the winter anyway. Folks, just wait and trust for a good solution next year.
;) ;) ;) ;)
One of my sources (sport car guy) told me that RFR was in foreclosure and is now in some banker hands. He also told me that there are some investors group, some local, some from Canada, interested and working on something. Don't get your hopes up at all, it could be all smoke and no roast ;D
Has anyone thought of haveing monthly dues like $50 a month, $12.50 a week, $600 one time yearly fee. this would give us say four track days and give them some cash to work with.obviously if you were paying the monthly fee you couldn't take a free day till you had $150 in the pot. this would give them money to do some improvements and hopefully get more track days scheduled for the year. I just started doing track days and the likely hood of going to sears point , laguna and thunder hill will difenitely limit the amount of track days I do since they are two to three time more expensive and further away. I think some of the California guys would come up four or more times a year. that would generate a ton of money. Just my 2 cents.
i think this is a great idea for the new owner/operator if one presents.
ps. The other tracks seem distant, but we're going to end up carpooling and towing each others equipment. Not to worry!
I cant wait to ride a different track ;D
MILLER MOTORSPORT PARK HOME TO THE SSA..... MAN, WOULDNT THAT BE NICE! ;D
Thunderhill and Sears aren't that far away. I personally don't mind the drive at all. Between carpooling and getting rooms with multiple people, the cost isn't even double to do a Thill day vs. Fernley, the way I figure. I have a trailer that could fit 3 bikes, and a truck that can fit 2. :) We'll work it out one way or another. I know this isn't the end of my trackdays!
You are right Andy, and for some of our members that have not experienced other racetrack; you are in for a treat!! I went to Tunderhill with my man Jerome and KFG (known fast guy) Andrei for the first time la September, and had a wonderful time. How about this: only focus on lines and smoothness, no worries about bumps, patches, holes etc. :o
Thill is a beautiful track. Especially since the repave last year. 8)
WELL, WHEN ARE WE GOING?......... ;D
Next spring.
Quote from: Team Gorgonzola VP on November 13, 2009, 11:37:45 AM
You are right Andy, and for some of our members that have not experienced other racetrack; you are in for a treat!! I went to Tunderhill with my man Jerome and KFG (known fast guy) Andrei for the first time la September, and had a wonderful time. How about this: only focus on lines and smoothness, no worries about bumps, patches, holes etc. :o
I seriously stopped reading for a second at KFG and thought, "who is KFG?" ??? LOL. I'm not fast...I just carry a brisk pace. We need more trips like that next year!
About the bumps. Is this still an issue? Get used to it and forget about it (that's what I did). Seriously though, how many people have gone down because of the bumps? I can't think of anybody at all. I've had bad pogo like mid corner bumps and that just tells me that I F'd up and got on the wrong line.
Thunder hill is nice...except fot the fence. ::) ::) ::)
The fence isn't there for you dummy. It's for the animals....duh. :)
Quote from: Adiggity on November 13, 2009, 06:32:00 PM
The fence isn't there for you dummy. It's for the animals....duh. :)
Jenx IS a total animal !!
tot it looked boring and wanted to decorate it with m bike. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: youngster775 on November 13, 2009, 02:25:17 PM
WELL, WHEN ARE WE GOING?......... ;D
Hey Paul, seems like you are hook up to the track days now huh?
Hey Dale, do you have something to tell Paul? $$$$
;D ;D
I went to Thunderhill last spring. I stayed in Williams (about 30 miles from the track) I paid U$32.00 per night with breakfast included. Like Andy said, the track asphalt was amazing. I miss that track because is a fast track with blind hill. :)
We should go everybody together next year. ;)
Quote from: Rick Tahoe on November 13, 2009, 09:26:13 PM
Hey Dale, do you have something to tell Paul? $$$$
;D ;D
To late. You seen how many bikes and all the gear he has already bought? I am going to let him clean my carpets to feed his addiction though :)
Quote from: n10sive on November 13, 2009, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Rick Tahoe on November 13, 2009, 09:26:13 PM
Hey Dale, do you have something to tell Paul? $$$$
;D ;D
To late. You seen how many bikes and all the gear he has already bought? I am going to let him clean my carpets to feed his addiction though :)
Too funny! ;D ;D
That's right to late now. I saw the all good things that he bought.
Such a good business Carpet Cleaning, huh....?
Track days for me only next year. :(
Let's make a deal with Storey County to rent the truck route, just like the cars do. We can call it the "SSA VC Bike Climb". ;)
Feel bad... I used to get out there twice a month. But the economy finally shafted me too >:(
sold my track bike cuz it was hard just to keep tires on it. Trying to restructure to hit it hard again but its taking awhile.
Quote from: wills on November 15, 2009, 09:07:27 AM
Let's make a deal with Storey County to rent the truck route, just like the cars do. We can call it the "SSA VC Bike Climb". ;)
Where the Storey County is? ???
Virginia City!
I am bummed to here about RFR!!!
This was my first year ever owning a sport bike, and I did 10 track days at RFR.
I am really going to miss this experience with everyone and all the fun. I also would like to try other tracks if other people are going. Car pooling is a great idea.
Quote from: dr1150 on November 15, 2009, 04:44:27 PM
I am really going to miss this experience with everyone and all the fun. I also would like to try other tracks if other people are going.
We are going, and we're in for a treat
Quote from: mean green 79 on November 13, 2009, 07:53:39 AM
Has anyone thought of haveing monthly dues like $50 a month, $12.50 a week, $600 one time yearly fee. this would give us say four track days and give them some cash to work with.obviously if you were paying the monthly fee you couldn't take a free day till you had $150 in the pot. this would give them money to do some improvements and hopefully get more track days scheduled for the year.
We already give them money and most of us give them more than that. Even when we support track providers, thay get a good cut. Improvements? ::)
Alought you have an idea, which shouldn't have to come from us. :(
Quote from: wills on November 15, 2009, 09:07:27 AM
Let's make a deal with Storey County to rent the truck route, just like the cars do. We can call it the "SSA VC Bike Climb". ;)
that would be kool I love the truck route but, the no sand traps or guard rails =very long cliff drops on 90% of the turns
Quote from: wills on November 15, 2009, 10:37:51 AM
Virginia City!
Thank you.
But the way, is that the hill without safety on sides? I've done this trail a few times before I "hook up" on tracks...
That sucks about RFR and hopefully it will only be through the winter.
Thank you all for all your comments. They have been real positive. Keep your ears open on the status of the track.
I'm hoping we can work something out with the bank to let us still go out to the track. I can't see anyone just letting that facility just sit there when we can generate some revenue for the bank.
I've spoke with a car guy who has some knowledge of the track and heard the SCCA is looking at RFR as well. He also had some information about people also working on reopening the track. We're not the only ones hurting about the closing of RFR. I'm optimistic the Track will open again in 2010. I don't know of anyone yet. I have heard a lot of rumors. Hopefully some one will come through. What ever happens I'm sure we'll still be a part of it. WE do very well out there at RFR. Thanks to all who kept coming out to the Track for SSA and all the other track providers. You were making a difference.
If we can't do RFR I'm sure we can work out a reasonable price with all the other Track providers if we go as a group. If we can count on a group of at least 20 or more that is a good voice. Keigwins has a pretty good deal with some other clubs out there I know he keeps a day open only for South Bay Riders. They have a few months to sell it out. Then he sells the remainder of the spots to who ever wants to sign up. WE I'm sure can do the same thing. I will contact the other providers we use and see what they can offer us. We have a pretty good following and I would like to keep it. I feel that the SSA owes it to our members after all look how many of you are just Track ONLY.
I'm not sure if I want to Rent out Thunderhill on our own just yet. I'd like to concentrate on RFR. That is so nice to be 45 minutes form a Track.
Thanks for all that you do Jerome! Hopefully RFR will re-open and this economic mess will start to back off a little.
I would keep a positive attitude towards track availability in 2010 as the banks are very interested in revenue as long as the liability can be taken care of. Jerome has done a fantastic job of facilitating track days and have no doubt that will continue no matter what the track.
Everyone local is very lucky that you have so many dry days available and so many good tracks within a days drive. We have 3 tracks that are within a close ratio of each other (Pacific Raceway, Kent WA.), Spokane Raceway, Spokane WA.) and Portland International Raceway, Portland OR.) but since this is the Northwest we have more wet track that dry by far. Not to mention the farther south you go down the coast the better the tracks are.
Thanks Jerome. You are included on the top the list of the nicest guys that I have met. You are brave and hard work men. I love you bro!!... And the rest of SSA members too! ;D ;D
We'll figure some solution out next year for sure! :) :)
Goodbye, Reno Fernley Raceway and HELLO Reno Fernley Racetrack
We met with the new leadership of RFR. Their bosses are the venture capitalists who loaned the money to the previous track owner. When the Bo$$e$ got the track returned to them, they very quickly did some research on T-hill, Sears Point etc. Being very smart, they realize the possibilities.
Short version. I like the guys we met tonight. They have good heads on their shoulders and they both have racing backgrounds and are passionate about motorsports. They remember when Sears Point looked like Fern-tucky. They have a strong vision and are very optimistic that RENO FERNLEY RACETRACK *new name with a new website soon* can enjoy the same trajectory as Sears and T-hill.
More good news . . . they believe that motorcyclists are they key to the track's success.
They, very badly, want to resurface, but it will be a challenge to show the venture capitalists that there will be an even return on a million dollar investment, and that challenge may difficult to accomplish this year. Resurfacing holds precedence, and is more feasible than plumbing.
We have to be a patient and we have to be supportive. They appear very committed to the SSA, and we want to be instrumental and invested in their success also.
very short version:
Ladies and Gentlemen, WE HAVE A TRACK with plans to be operational in April.
Jerome deserves special thanks for arranging the meeting, and getting the ball rolling, and staying positive.
Thats soooooo freaking awesome!!!!! cant wait to ride RFR again! Tanx dragon
I share your excitement. We are the only two people awake, I think.
Glad to hear the GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you need workers; I'll be available
This is great news and I just want to say thanks to everyone in the SSA, especially our elected officials as having this great base of riders orgainzed really helps anyone who loves to ride!
I would like to add to the conversation if I could. There is still a caveat out there. First...there will be more of an expense to hold a trackday there. The new operators will be talking more about this with us as they get further along the process. There will also be somewhat short notice on the days that we will get. So there is some ciphering involved.....track availability, dates and cost. The SSA will do everything it can to make happen what needs to happen, but it is going to take LOTS of work! We also have to figure out how to come up with corner workers, medical and other support functions that used to be provided by the last operator so we can keep our costs down. All good discussions...but it will still take more time and energy to get there.
The board and advisers really really appreciate all you guys in this club who are enthusiastic and willing to help! Let's rock this place! :)
this has probably been mentioned before, but...for corner workers and other non specialized support staff, what about doing something like work-a-day get-a-day, where you put a day in flagging, you get a free day at the track. Id be down for that.
I am here ;D ;D
special thanks to everybody that took time to meet that people that did this for the rest of us.
I promise to to track more this year I have been working nights and I have Sundays off so I don't have to switch with someone for the day off.
Mikey
I would be a good corner cone... No lets do this how can we help.?.? flyers around town.?.? Is there a posibility of scratching some sort of road around the perimeter and building areas for spectating because even if you get curious people to go out and check out the place, you can't see sh$t once you get past the "DO NOT ENTER/ KEEP OUT" signs, not very inviteing= Can't see the action = No excitement + No enthusaism= No word of mouth marketing (if you will) and we know that this is the most powerful and affortable way to promote anything. Even driving buy RFR all you can see is their construction garabage dump.
I know that this is basically just a bunch of rambling and there is alot that goes into it. BUT... I also think they are good points and I'm in to help so... :-\ ;)
Great News!! I share in everybodys excitement..
Special thanks to Jerome and our elected officials for all the hard work and dedication. This is what makes our club, i mean association unique!
And of course, our SSA members for the ideas, volunteer work and just plain support of the club. Bring on 2010!
great news, i was worried about my favorite track ;D
Than you!thank you! Exec. Board and active members. Im ready to help on the weekends. Im down with Red Leader idea. Special Meeting soon? I will hold out and wait to keep my money local.
A corner workers daily rate is significantly cheaper than last years track fee, but i like the spirit!
WOW VERY COOL. I cant wait. Thanks to all the guys that made this happen.....
This is great news. I had started converting my track bike back to street.
I see a trip out west this fall for TeamStimac. ;D
U
Very good news! It's awesome!! Thanks for sharing this info with us Justino....
Awesome news. I will be looking forward to going to RFR as much as i can next year. Since I did my first track day last year i went to every single ssa day thereafter and do not regret it one bit. As far as spreading the word, how about someone starting a RFR and SSA facebook? i know a lot of people have the facebook and i think it would be a step in the right direction, especially with it being free.
Quote from: rick07r6 on January 17, 2010, 09:59:11 AM
Awesome news. I will be looking forward to going to RFR as much as i can next year. Since I did my first track day last year i went to every single ssa day thereafter and do not regret it one bit. As far as spreading the word, how about someone starting a RFR and SSA facebook? i know a lot of people have the facebook and i think it would be a step in the right direction, especially with it being free.
Rick, I will be setting up all that soon, waiting for some ride/track dates
I'll be doing at least one day with you guys this year. My wife loves the track, but I've never ridden there.
RICH!!! Welcome aboard mang!
This is excellent news.
Do you all mind if I cross post this info? A lot of us like Reno Fernley. We have been meaning to do one of your trackdays.
Cross post. . . and insert a link to this post too.
Great news!
Many thanks to the Board, for getting involved.
That's really great news. Can't wait for the dates to get posted so I can sign up.
so, uh...what's the news now? :D
Quote from: com3 on February 09, 2010, 05:26:55 PM
so, uh...what's the news now? :D
The track just delivered us a price sheet. No available dates yet.
Quote from: n10sive on February 09, 2010, 05:38:54 PM
Quote from: com3 on February 09, 2010, 05:26:55 PM
so, uh...what's the news now? :D
The track just delivered us a price sheet. No available dates yet.
WEWT!
if you built it [toilets], they will come...
they built them......... out of plastic ;D
im really glad to hear this. im new to the sport and really wanting to get out on the track for my first time! drove by it a few times and cant wait to get some leathers and drag a knee!
Just stumbled across this and thought it was interesting. http://blog.roadandtrack.com/tags/reno-fernley-raceway/
Anyone have $38 million laying around?
Here it is http://www.colliersreno.com/htmlreports/htmlreport_main.aspx?propertyid=200514033.1016086920&availsubtype=27 (http://www.colliersreno.com/htmlreports/htmlreport_main.aspx?propertyid=200514033.1016086920&availsubtype=27)
That doesnt sound/look good.. :-\
If they had plans on reopening it, why are they trying to sell it?
Quote from: Wilde Racing on February 18, 2010, 08:46:32 AM
That doesnt sound/look good.. :-\
If they had plans on reopening it, why are they trying to sell it?
The bank is the one keeping it open until they can find a buyer. Won't do any good to let it sit there and rot and lose all the good will the place has built.
at first 38M sounds outlandish, but that's 75k per acre, which after a quick google seems to be in the ballpark for even undeveloped commercial land near fernley.
We should ask Senator Reed to bail it out with some pork in any one of the 2400 page bills he is pushing through congress. Grass root campaign to stimulate jobs/development bail out the track. He did the same to save some old swimming pool in Reno a few years ago. If each of us write him and can get two others to do the same just maybe................ Pork to the rescue in an election year! :D
The track will open, as far as new improvements to the track like, bathrooms, repaving sections of the track ect.. Good luck.
The track is still under the same investors as before. They just setup new management is all and cut the cables out. These guys are doing the best they can with what tools they are given. Trying to get the investors to pour in more cash on a project that is already hurting is slim to none.
Management has taken the notes on what the car and bike clubs would like to see improved but the biggest problem is cash flow still. The investors are still the same here. SO there is still no money. And they have not agreed to throw more cash at it.
So the track is still in the same situation it was last season. The investors are trying to hold on to it unless someone pops in with the asking price.
Honestly after speaking with them Im just happy they are going to reopen it for another season and try to keep it active..
It is nice to have this track in our backyard
Quote from: Superbike Performance Lab on February 18, 2010, 01:32:19 PM
The track will open, as far as new improvements to the track like, bathrooms, repaving sections of the track ect.. Good luck.
The track is still under the same investors as before. They just setup new management is all and cut the cables out. These guys are doing the best they can with what tools they are given. Trying to get the investors to pour in more cash on a project that is already hurting is slim to none.
Management has taken the notes on what the car and bike clubs would like to see improved but the biggest problem is cash flow still. The investors are still the same here. SO there is still no money. And they have not agreed to throw more cash at it.
So the track is still in the same situation it was last season. The investors are trying to hold on to it unless someone pops in with the asking price.
Honestly after speaking with them Im just happy they are going to reopen it for another season and try to keep it active..
It is nice to have this track in our backyard
Yes!
Exactly the same information from January 15th. Appreciate the confirmation.
Quote from: Justino on February 18, 2010, 09:37:33 PMYes!
Exactly the same information from January 15th. Appreciate the confirmation.
well...he was at the same meeting wasn't he? :P
Quote from: n10sive on February 18, 2010, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: Justino on February 18, 2010, 09:37:33 PMYes!
Exactly the same information from January 15th. Appreciate the confirmation.
well...he was at the same meeting wasn't he? :P
Ha ha ha you guys are funny. No I wasnt. I was with you in spirit! ;D
We had a meeting with them probably a week before you guys had yours. Good to know they are keepin to the same story..
Quote from: oldBolt on February 18, 2010, 11:15:50 AM
We should ask Senator Reed to bail it out with some pork in any one of the 2400 page bills he is pushing through congress. Grass root campaign to stimulate jobs/development bail out the track. He did the same to save some old swimming pool in Reno a few years ago. If each of us write him and can get two others to do the same just maybe................ Pork to the rescue in an election year! :D
Hell it couldn't hurt! Beat's not doing anything.
UPDATE
I have it on good authority that the folks at RFR are working feverishly to get the track ready for the year.
They've got the former employees on the new payroll preparing the track to meet insurance requirements.
Progress is being made.
Justin,
Vice President
heres the tire mess I've made so far....... 8)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af344/youngster775/paul225005.jpg)
theyre bolting these tires together as we speak....
Quote from: youngster775 on March 03, 2010, 09:33:07 AM
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af344/youngster775/paul225005.jpg)
theyre bolting these tires together as we speak....
See that one fat tire above the person's shadow. That one is mine... I'm going to strike that one with my helmet this year. I 'call' that tire
does anyone know what the costs are going to be for a track day?
It will depend on what we can get the track for. Last year they went for 110-130 a day.
ok do you know if they will be offering any leasons also ive never ridden a track before and dont want to go out and be stupid
There will be plenty of instructors there. Any of us would be glad to help.
really means alot thanks man like ive said brand new to all this but have loved bike since i was little and have always wanted to get into it
Wait till your first trackday, you will be hooked. If you have any other questions feel free to post up.
You can come out with the SSA as we offer guidance as well as a separate orientation for newer riders (we keep you separate from the more experienced groups so you can have more fun, and not feel pressured to be a 'racer' on your first day.
There are several guys in this very post who are instructors. Oneup, ScotinExile, and I have worn the orange bib and enjoy offering our time and wisdom (what little we have) to making sure that EVERYONE has the best experience possible.
When I am wearing the fluorescent instructor bib, I specialize in making sure the C group (newer riders) are all having a great time and have all their questions answered.
My first rule for ANY ride is to have fun.
You can't have fun if you feel scared or unsafe, you definitely can't have fun if you're crashing everywhere.
There is another track day provider that offers a great new rider program ZOOM ZOOM TRACK DAYS. Several of our members are ZOOM ZOOM intructors, too.
They are a professional track day provider that provides excellent new rider programs (of which I am a graduate)
The SSA differs from Zoom Zoom in that it is a motorcycle 'club,' that enjoys hosting track days as a way for our membership to share something many of us LOVE. We love bringing new people into the fold and watching them get hooked.
I have personally assisted in getting quite a few people totally addicted to the track (more than one are now faster than me)
In short, come out with us or Zoom Zoom, and in no time I'll be struggling to keep up with you.
Justin VP
Quotereally means alot thanks man like ive said brand new to all this but have loved bike since i was little and have always wanted to get into it
One track day wilth instruction (which you will be likely to have one on one as much as you can handle) is equal to an intire season out on the roads...
;)
Quote from: whiskytango on March 03, 2010, 09:20:24 PM
One track day wilth instruction (which you will be likely to have one on one as much as you can handle) is equal to an intire season out on the roads...
;)
Not only is he absolutely right, but he is one I am going to have a very difficult time keeping up with.
It'll be nice to see what they do with the place! Even though I don't ride, I'm excited to see what improvements are done! :)
plans to re-do the sunset straight (in warmer temps) which doesn't help you much
Quote from: whiskytango on March 03, 2010, 09:20:24 PM
Quotereally means alot thanks man like ive said brand new to all this but have loved bike since i was little and have always wanted to get into it
One track day wilth instruction (which you will be likely to have one on one as much as you can handle) is equal to an intire season out on the roads...
;)
Just don't let me instruct you, I'll just crash out infront of you, lol ;D
QuoteJust don't let me instruct you, I'll just crash out infront of you, lol
Yah you take insturction to a whole new level... :P
"Here we have Steve, Resident Badass and now he will demonstrate A 65 MPH low side right in front of you."
"Watch now children as he slides through the what have you and then stands up dusts off a procedes to conferm how much you suck by SCHOOLING you... ;D >:( ;D"
Steve will crash in front of anyone for attention. ;D
Is there any new news????? I think we should keep our offer the track same as last year. We will get the same for our money. If thay want more money (this is the rummor)we should tell them to stick it. It is known as negotiating. We can bring 90+ people to the track on good days, they need us more than we need them. Of corse it doesnt seem like that though sometimes.
I completely agree with you myron! 8)
Quote from: zipbyu on March 06, 2010, 08:31:56 AM
Steve will crash in front of anyone for attention. ;D
Is there any new news????? I think we should keep our offer the track same as last year. We will get the same for our money. If thay want more money (this is the rummor)we should tell them to stick it. It is known as negotiating. We can bring 90+ people to the track on good days, they need us more than we need them. Of corse it doesnt seem like that though sometimes.
Wish this were true, but it's not. The board will be working on numbers...and an exciting deal that I cannot disclose at this time due to the fact we were just delivered the pricing and all the numbers will have to be factored. But know this, costs are costs, and even cut to the bone, they will be higher for the new operators as it should be obvious that they cannot operate it the same as the last proprietor (yeah...the one that went bankrupt). The SSA board will do EVERYTHING it can to a) conduct trackdays; b) make it affordable. Jerome has done a wonderful job staying in communications with the new owners and trying to get things worked out. But we are still having to wait on the new owners to finish up some details on their end. It's getting close though!!!
So.....if thay increase cost "THAY WILL COME". The last owners failed because thay failed to listen to the customers about the facility. If thay don't provide any other services, and increase the cost thay are going to fail even quicker than the last owners. As it was, other motorcycle track providers loss or broke even when thay went to RFR. Is the goverment running this track? I just want state that thay are in no position to push us around.
OK so I am done venting my frustration, I hope you got some good rates on the track. I am hopeful RFR will make it another year.
the choice will really be how much risk the club is willing to take. If we sell a trackday at $100, and will need 100 people to break even (hypothetical numbers) after paying for the track rental, who gets to eat the loss if we only have 80 people show up? (we will also probably have really short notice on our first date). Is it fair for Jerome to eat the loss? I don't think so. If we lose on one trackday and profit on another, that is one thing. But who is going to carry the loss until we break even? Jerome again? NO. Are we, as member of this club willing to put up money to offset losses? I don't think so.
RFR's new management is NOT going to give us the deal we had before. We already negotiated. The bank really has no interest in actually doing this either. It's the conservators and THEY are willing to do races. But if they do not show a profit, the track will NEVER be available again as it will close permanently. So we have what we have, and now the trick is work with what they have offered us and get the track going. Hell...in reality the land is more valuable to a developer at the current price for a commercial development than a track. That's a reality we have to work with.
But you are also right in that no matter what we charge, without some improvements, people will not continue to come. Herein lies the problem. If they operate at a loss...no improvements. No improvements, no customers. These guys are not stupid, and they are working with us to make it all happen.
For now though, please do not get worked up as I think what might be offered will be VERY good for us. It's just going to take a few more meetings (and negotiations) so patience is going to be key for now.
All this (on the page 4) talk is getting me excited. I am also in need of an instructor, I prefer one that wont crash in front of me :P
So, is there any rumors on when the track will be open?
Quote from: n10sive on March 06, 2010, 03:17:47 PM
the choice will really be how much risk the club is willing to take. If we sell a trackday at $100, and will need 100 people to break even (hypothetical numbers) after paying for the track rental, who gets to eat the loss if we only have 80 people show up? (we will also probably have really short notice on our first date). Is it fair for Jerome to eat the loss? I don't think so. If we lose on one trackday and profit on another, that is one thing. But who is going to carry the loss until we break even? Jerome again? NO. Are we, as member of this club willing to put up money to offset losses? I don't think so.
What if we pay a little higher fee to Jerome, if we end up with more than enough to pay RFR then carry the difference over to cover the short fall if there is one. then adjust the price SSA members pay from track day to track day. If we build up a nice reserve we could have a really cheap track day at the end of the season.
Quote from: CptnHornblower on March 11, 2010, 03:25:26 PM
What if we pay a little higher fee to Jerome, if we end up with more than enough to pay RFR then carry the difference over to cover the short fall if there is one. then adjust the price SSA members pay from track day to track day. If we build up a nice reserve we could have a really cheap track day at the end of the season.
That is being discussed too. We need to make a 'profit' so to speak so Jerome or the club doesn't have to go out of pocket from date to date. Anything left at the end of the season is typically used to buy club shirts and hats, stickers and other items to give back to the membership.
Gee, in10sive sounds like a pretty smart guy. Hum, has a Beemer and an SV; yep must be bloody brilliant!
Quote from: CptnHornblower on March 11, 2010, 05:40:40 PM
Gee, in10sive sounds like a pretty smart guy. Hum, has a Beemer and an SV; yep must be bloody brilliant!
LOL. I see what you did there. Bloody Brilliant! :D :D
is there any security there during the day? i've been SERIOUSLY craving some laps... :D
Consider what is paid to go to thunderhill, trackday fee, gas, bout 6hrs. travel , maybe hotel, food,. Even at a higher fee than last year RFR still sounds like a value to me. And local biz thats the kicker that makes me North Nevada PROUD! Oh and I could be home for dinner with the little flower (war dept.)
Quote from: com3 on March 12, 2010, 04:13:03 PM
is there any security there during the day? i've been SERIOUSLY craving some laps... :D
They are out working every day
Quote from: Justino on March 12, 2010, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: com3 on March 12, 2010, 04:13:03 PM
is there any security there during the day? i've been SERIOUSLY craving some laps... :D
They are out working every day
what about at night? i got headlights... plus i've done so many laps there, i know which direction the track goes... :P
Pressure sensors that notify the police directly. Careful Joe. . . they're everywhere
Quote from: Justino on March 12, 2010, 10:31:46 PM
Pressure sensors that notify the police directly. Careful Joe. . . they're everywhere
gah! them crazy nevada-people!
"Presure Sensor" ::) right. Thay dont even have a toilet.
Quote from: edmunsan on March 12, 2010, 10:13:34 PM
Consider what is paid to go to thunderhill, trackday fee, gas, bout 6hrs. travel , maybe hotel, food,. Even at a higher fee than last year RFR still sounds like a value to me. And local biz thats the kicker that makes me North Nevada PROUD! Oh and I could be home for dinner with the little flower (war dept.)
While I'm a big fan of RFR and plan on doing all of the SSA days there, once you ride an established track like Thunderhill, Infineon, Buttonwillow you will find that the cost difference is well worth it. I won't even talk about the amenities at Miller. RFR has a great layout but it still has a long way to go. I am all for supporting the local track but I also believe that everyone should try one of the other tracks is the surrounding areas to get a feel for where RFR needs to be. Ask Putz about his recent experience at another track.
Please keep in mind when I say this that I've done more trackdays at RFR than any other track and it isn't the closest track to where I live.
Quote from: zipbyu on March 13, 2010, 05:02:57 PM
"Presure Sensor" ::) right. Thay dont even have a toilet.
Pressure Sensor...it's what goes off because they don't have toilets :P
If I were new management of RENO'S ONLY LOCAL TRACK i definitely would have had a booth at the INTERNATIONAL MOTORSPORTS & Recreation EXPO held at the RENO CONVENTION CENTER.
I would try to get a BOOTH somewhere between the Ducati 1098R, the Freedom Cycle Triumph Daytona 675, and The SCCA (Sport Car Club of America) who also use the track.
You can call me crazy, but I just get these wacky ideas from time to time.
If they marketed the f***ing track, I wouldn't have to support them by myself.
Quote from: Justino on March 13, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
If I were new management of RENO'S ONLY LOCAL TRACK i definitely would have had a booth at the INTERNATIONAL MOTORSPORTS & Recreation EXPO held at the RENO CONVENTION CENTER.
I would try to get a BOOTH somewhere between the Ducati 1098R, the Freedom Cycle Triumph Daytona 675, and The SCCA (Sport Car Club of America) who also use the track.
You can call me crazy, but I just get these wacky ideas from time to time.
If they marketed the f***ing track, I wouldn't have to support them by myself.
I sense a little frustration considering you posted this in three different threads.
Quote from: Oneup on March 13, 2010, 09:38:10 PM
I sense a little frustration considering you posted this in three different threads.
Give me a call
I wanna know, I wanna know!!!
You are right, how many people dont know there is a track out ther in the first place. Their marketing is a big sign in Fernley on I-80, and a still not operating web site. Of course thay have a dirt track in Fernley. Road course????? As a big supporter of RFR, and it hurt to say, I cant see that we will be out there on bikes ever again. Or at least next year, man I hope I eat me words, because thay have so much potential. :-\
Quote from: Gangplank on March 14, 2010, 09:49:57 AM
Needs artlice and news..... needs people to talk about it.... needs local shops to support it.
WILL NOT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all have tried..... The fact of the matter is the bank is still running it and using management with no track racing experience!!!!!
The same old formula that shut it down before... (Nothing has changed)
Now all track day companies BOTH BIKES AND ROAD CARS have already made schedules without RFR and have pretty much made there decision on RFR! And it goes back to the same argument.. For the price they charge IT IS worth the trip to ride a track (Thunderhill,Miller, ect..)
We have tried to get them to give away single track days as part of the marketing ploy.. The bank pretty much tells us to go kick rocks! They are set in there ways FOR NOW! It might change halfway thru once they see they have no income coming in at all.
the dirt track hasnt opened in 2 yrs
Here is the RFR update..... If you don't know, I am closely in touch with the track management and working diligently to help them open so we can have our track back. Today I spoke with management to clarify a few issues. first, they are still on track to open April 1st. this coming week they have contractors coming out to fix three areas in the asphalt, the hoot and holler, the horseshoe, and a groove in the front straight. secondly, their website is up and running. It's renofernleyracetrack.com (http://renofernleyracetrack.com) Third, they could not attend the convention. with things moving at the rate they are, they weren't prepared to do the show. he wanted to have brochures, stickers, etc. to hand out and it wasn't ready in time. they didn't want to do the job half-assed, so they made the decision not to it at all. they barely just got their logo made. and this concludes my SSA update. thanks
Youngster775/head of promotions and marketing
thanks for the update!
Quote from: youngster775 on March 15, 2010, 10:22:32 PM
Here is the RFR update..... If you don't know, I am closely in touch with the track management and working diligently to help them open so we can have our track back. Today I spoke with management to clarify a few issues. first, they are still on track to open April 1st. this coming week they have contractors coming out to fix three areas in the asphalt, the hoot and holler, the horseshoe, and a groove in the front straight. secondly, their website is up and running. It's renofernleyracetrack.com They could not attend the convention. with things moving at the rate they are, they weren't prepared to do the show. he wanted to have brochures, stickers, etc. to hand out and it wasn't ready in time. they didn't want to do the job half-assed, so they made the decision not to it at all. they barely just got their logo made. and this concludes my SSA update. thanks
Youngster775/head of promotions and marketing
You know youngster all I can say is I hope you can talk some sense into these guys as far as ramping up the season. The Pricing they are asking for from ALL track day companies is a bit brutal considering they have to mend alot of "out of town " relationships. Maybe he will listen to you. No one is asking for them to drop there pants all season on pricing but it would be a good idea to start off low and get people back in to see the improvements made to this track. Word of mouth from other racers HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE then commercials or fliers ever could be. Then maybe the pricing could be more justified after they have ridden on the improvements.
You got to give a little to get a little.
Quote from: Superbike Performance Lab on March 16, 2010, 10:55:25 AM
Quote from: youngster775 on March 15, 2010, 10:22:32 PM
Here is the RFR update..... If you don't know, I am closely in touch with the track management and working diligently to help them open so we can have our track back. Today I spoke with management to clarify a few issues. first, they are still on track to open April 1st. this coming week they have contractors coming out to fix three areas in the asphalt, the hoot and holler, the horseshoe, and a groove in the front straight. secondly, their website is up and running. It's renofernleyracetrack.com They could not attend the convention. with things moving at the rate they are, they weren't prepared to do the show. he wanted to have brochures, stickers, etc. to hand out and it wasn't ready in time. they didn't want to do the job half-assed, so they made the decision not to it at all. they barely just got their logo made. and this concludes my SSA update. thanks
Youngster775/head of promotions and marketing
You know youngster all I can say is I hope you can talk some sense into these guys as far as ramping up the season. The Pricing they are asking for from ALL track day companies is a bit brutal considering they have to mend alot of "out of town " relationships. Maybe he will listen to you. No one is asking for them to drop there pants all season on pricing but it would be a good idea to start off low and get people back in to see the improvements made to this track. Word of mouth from other racers HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE then commercials or fliers ever could be. Then maybe the pricing could be more justified after they have ridden on the improvements.
You got to give a little to get a little.
well said
Quote from: Gangplank on March 16, 2010, 09:57:01 AM
There are probably others..... merge?
You only posted this twice...you missed a thread LOL
much agreed. I'll put in the word
Quote from: Superbike Performance Lab on March 16, 2010, 10:55:25 AM
You know youngster all I can say is I hope you can talk some sense into these guys as far as ramping up the season. The Pricing they are asking for from ALL track day companies is a bit brutal
With economy and turnouts as is they will be lucky if somebody rents it for 5 year old price :)
Quote from: Superbike Performance Lab on March 14, 2010, 03:36:46 PM
The fact of the matter is the bank is still running it and using management with no track racing experience!!!!!
They both have extensive track racing experience.
topics merged. thanks for the suggestion, Josh.
Quote from: Justino on March 16, 2010, 07:25:39 PM
Quote from: Superbike Performance Lab on March 14, 2010, 03:36:46 PM
The fact of the matter is the bank is still running it and using management with no track racing experience!!!!!
They both have extensive track racing experience.
Justino the man Im referring to ran the paintball gun range there and is now the manager for the track. Im not sure who your referring to here.
Not sure if you met with imposters!
I am referring to the two managers, Dave G and John W.
Loads of racing experience.
(HHHMMMM............. Let me see Dave Gigenbach oh yeah the man who organized an auto-rally event and needed experienced cornerworkers which Danny hocked him up with.... long story short .... the day he was to pick us up at the race track we were there and oh yeah he never showed........ I still have lots of faith in him still......NOT!! Lots of track experience well lets see, was he there with SCCA getting the track FIA/SCCA certified no..... Was he there organising the Moto event at RFR USGPRU.......no Didhe have anything to with booking anything at the trackover the last five years....no .. in fact all he has ever been at the track is a driving instuctor (a poor one at that) and an occasional customer...... People even he is going bring Danny back if he doesn't screw that up!!!!!! It is my understanding that unless they don't pull there heads out soon a get some better help either they won't make April1st or you'll be riding a deathtrap, (you"ll have better safty riding the TT event on the Ilse of Man).... So far no cornerworkers (somthing even Jason Pridmore realized he needed for his school when he got there....), no confrirmed medical & who knows what kind of insurance!! Banks no the owners are in Ca. Al McElroy made his deal w/ them, NOT that man...!! So as far as I"m cocerned ya'll know more about snipe hunting than they do about track management!!! He can sell you a car though its his day job or was anyway. It was Jeremy who went to the track managers convetion evry year along w/ LHMillers son (anyone have 30 someodd car dealerships in 4 states &an NBA Franchise with money to burn?) It wasn't mismanagement as (continued next page....)
much as human greed that screwed us two people living out side thier means in a finacial bubble built by good old "creative finacing " (how else do you get a 4.3 million dollar house built on a hill?) Yes the owners in Ca. are pissed, you would be too!! So now we are left with the mess..... Have faith people even Laguna took time lots of voluteer help and local finacial support. Of course it was the late fifties- early sixties, but it can happen agian.....all it takes is faith !!! Ive was witness to it happening in So. Idaho w/ a dragstrip the man was Ed "the Outlaw" Jones. He bought a defunked piece of property w/ an old dragstrip on it and within a year (with local help lot's of sweat) he open up 1/8th mile at first then the full 1/4 mile. The dirt oval is another story..... After being missmanaged by the not-so-brite step-son Chris Coachlitch , besides letting me go (Jeremy hired me the very nexted day!!) he also fired the oldest most reliable worker he had. Danny left midseason to come to the roadcourse full-time along with Diana. So after pissing of every dirt racer around the oval lost money & Chris was fired!! Jeremy had his hands full w/ the road-course, so it was decided to lease the oval out . The people who signed up had also run Octanefest the year before in Fallon. Well I guess they thought it far more important to buy new toys & repaint the old ones than say oh have decent payouts for wins or paying their bills... Not only did they bounce three checks to RFR (there went your toilets or at lest part of them!!) but they also failed to meet any of their '09 Octanefest comitments financially that is. Sorry this posting is so long ,BUT I'm getting kinda tired of the whining about this that or the other. Ive worked at a track where the owner was ONLY interested in the gate and what it could bring in It was racers who stood up & bought the supplies needed. Ive also seen what 14 million can do to the same facillity,not only did it rebiuld it it got us a Div 7 Dragrace sight unseen(Las Vegas lost it's Sanction &it's race that year) So folks either "Cowboy Up" & volunteer (pull weeds build FIA/FIM tire barriers backfill &paint rumblestrips sweat equity), or sit on your butts and bemoan the fact it WAS nice!!! Also unless any of have corner expiernce PLS PLS PLS STAY ON YOUR BIKES !!!! Let the PRO's handle the safety!!!! If it works FIM DORMA AMA Z2 Kegwins it will work for you !!! Thanks for listening & again I appologize about the length, should have walked to work.... ;D ;D
Quote from: RCFLAGGER on March 22, 2010, 01:03:55 AM
BUT I'm getting kinda tired of the whining about this that or the other.
Terry,
Your post contains plenty of whining.
It also has an appropriate amount of frustration (which is evident in our posts as well)
The corner worker comments are a direct response to the new MGMT suggestion of ways to decrease our cost. Corner working is a learned skill not an innate talent, which is to say that the pros weren't born with an ability that I can't acquire.
I'm re-reading your pm, and will reply soon
Quote from: RCFLAGGER on March 22, 2010, 01:03:55 AM
So folks either "Cowboy Up" & volunteer (pull weeds build FIA/FIM tire barriers backfill &paint rumblestrips sweat equity), or sit on your butts and bemoan the fact it WAS nice!!!
Terry, we did "cowboy up" and didn't pay attention to the poor condition of the pavement, the lack of basic facilities, (running water, built-in shade, run-off areas with boulders, ditches) and supported the track. I have more than 30 days up there. Many with track day organizers at $ 170/$180 per day. In the last 6/7 years that I have been at RFR not much have changed for the better. In my experience restaurants close that way, they get old and tired and people find new, better, (albeit more expensive), more exciting places to go. There is an old business saying :"if you aren't growing you're shrinking" There is not such a thing as stay the same (never get better) and be successful. The one good thing RFR always had was the people that worked there. I have personally known Danny for 10+years (from his days at Mission Linen) and you for quite a few years. You guys were the soul of Reno Fernley but it wasn't enough. I do believe that Jeremy did his best, but if you can control cash-flow and expenses, because of external pressure, (siphoning out all the profit to support other projects, at least what I heard), you cannot run any business effectively. I do not know what the note was on the property so it's hard to evaluate what the cost per-day run. Hard to believe it cost what the "new" managers claim. Sweat equity is a term used to describe the contribution made to a project by people who contribute their time and effort. The term is sometimes used in partnership agreements where one or more of the partners contributes no financial capital. It mean, IMO that at some point there needs to be some kind retribution in exchange for it. Somehow I don't believe the new "owners" have that in mind. Terry we want nothing more that RFRS succeed, as you know we all have our personal struggle/challenges but I personally don't think making more money for a Socal millionaire will be om my to-do list anytime soon.
HERE, HERE,,,,, I totaly agree......... THAT'S what is so hard to swallow at this point . How greed can help destroy a dream or at least set it way back is hard........On the positive side someone can still show up to help build the "Lagunasearsmillersecapoint motorsports park raceway " of our DREAMS........AAAAHHHHH don't laugh !!!!!! I"VE GOT THAT T-SHIRT TOO!!!!!! It's from rocky mountain raceways been there done that....... Chow Bella.......
Gentlemen, I Feel at this point that I am greviously in debt!!! I owe all of you good people an APOLOGY!!!! It is wrong to use this board to vent ,rant and rave like a lune...for that I am SORRY !! It is mostly out of pain, anger & frustration that I have said what I have said. Although this was probably not the place, nor was the way I've chosen to say it. Of all the time NOT to listen to the voices telling me DELETE,DELETE you MORON...!!! Oh well whats done is done..... To those of you who have tried to help (youngster) HAZZA,HAZZA,HAZZA......sorry to hear of property that was stolen.... welcome to the club. As far as being shorted in pay..... come on in the waters fine....... It is brutally hard to see something that you have poured your heart & soul into have made unrequited sacrifices for turned into CRAP & be helpless to little about it SUCKS !!! It was not my intent to alienate, point fingers, direct blame, piss in bowls of Wheaties, etc. though it seems to me that that is exactly what I did! FOLKS PLEASE FORGIVE MY ERROR & ACCEPT MY HUMBLEST OF APOLOGIES. I AM SORRY. Next to ZOOM-ZOOM, SSA is my favorite group to be around & to play with PERIOD!!!! except when you make me work during lunch.................................. THANK YOU ONE & ALL TM
I can relate to the frustration you're experiencing. Considering that this track has been your livelihood and your future anyone could imagine the pain you're now experiencing.
This has to be a giant slap in the face. . .
To that, Terry, I'll say that this situation is not yet over. Another bump, but the dream is not yet extinguished.
I mimic n10sive's comments about helping you keep your job and hope to work with you, and ride under your watchful eye again.
Justin
Quote from: RCFLAGGER on March 23, 2010, 02:38:22 AM
Gentlemen, I Feel at this point that I am greviously in debt!!!
is that you terry?! if so....HEY MAN!!! miss you up there, dude! this is joe from 4theriders, btw. :D
I don't know about the rest of you but I am confused a little.
Terry..
Is the track going to open? Don't feel bad about venting. I found the post interesting and pretty objective.
Alberto..
Terry is a good fella, and he does have more information than most of the rest of us do.
Personally I do not understand how the track could not be successful with a good investment (much more than I could afford).
All you need to do is go to Infineon and watch an AMA race only to sit in traffic for an hour trying to get out afterwards. Laguna is the same story, Laguna has the "magic" so it will be fine people are willing to tolerate the Laguna traffic. Infineon on the other hand will be in trouble in the next few years, because California is so %^&*'d up. When Infineon gets closed because the sandal wearing granola crunchers have had enough, the next best location for all those larger events is Northern Nevada.
If I can see this I do not understand how some Mega Business dude cannot. Fernley is right on I-80, easy to get to from two different directions (US 50, and I-80). The track will be in development for years, but I beleive if it is done right it will be a major facility.
Miller is great for the same reason, you just drive in off the interstate (hmm also form two directions), and you are in and out. Of course the Millers have invested a huge amount of money.
i've email back and forth with the new owner a few times...nothing really in depth, but here it is:
a few weeks ago:
QuoteWe are hoping to have events with ZoomZoom and Sierra Sport Riders in 2010. Sport Bike riders are a huge part of our target market for riding enjoyment/excitement....
then this one yesterday:
QuoteWe are a tad behind on the "opening". Probably mid April to May 1 is the best guesstimate.
I am totally comfortable with any dates AFTER 5/15 through 10/15....
Yeah...now go buy one of those 'dates' for $7700 firm (weekday rate) ::)
Quote from: n10sive on March 29, 2010, 12:36:29 PM
Yeah...now go buy one of those 'dates' for $7700 firm (weekday rate) ::)
the question is... is that a firm price? i.e., $7700 and the track is yours, no matter how many people are there, et cetera?
reason i ask is that i've rented thill a few times... $4995 is their rate. however, that's their rate for the first 20 people. :( after that, it's $60 per bike and $60 per rider... meaning the day that i had 61 riders in attendance, total bill for me was a few dollars shy of 10 grand.
while 7700 is a bit on the high side for what they have at their facilities (uh... a racetrack and not much more...), if that's a FIRM price, then it ain't quite as bad as one would think.
Quote from: com3 on March 29, 2010, 12:40:23 PM
the question is... is that a firm price? i.e., $7700 and the track is yours, no matter how many people are there, et cetera?
reason i ask is that i've rented thill a few times... $4995 is their rate. however, that's their rate for the first 20 people. :( after that, it's $60 per bike and $60 per rider... meaning the day that i had 61 riders in attendance, total bill for me was a few dollars shy of 10 grand.
while 7700 is a bit on the high side for what they have at their facilities (uh... a racetrack and not much more...), if that's a FIRM price, then it ain't quite as bad as one would think.
It would be nice if they structured it like THILL did for you. That is similar to what we had last year...smaller price and a 'gate' fee. So far there has been no interest in doing that for us this year. It would be hard to charge what we did last year with such short notice, and no facilities and guarantee we could the required # of riders :(
Yeah, but just think, at $300 per person it would only take 29 riders to break even on a weekend! Sweet! :o
n10sive... that $7700 number is COMPELTELY different from what i was just sent.
i'm not going to post exact number publicly, but i will tell you that assume the TDP does not have it's own insurance, medical, or cornerworkers and they require the track to provide all three services, it's $5900 for weekday and $6900 for weekend dates. significantly less if the TDP has it's own ins, med, and flaggers.
oh yeah, and there's multiday rental incentives too.. i.e., rent one day, get the 2nd 10% off, 3rd 15% off...
Quote from: scotinexcile on March 29, 2010, 01:29:14 PM
Quote from: CptnHornblower on March 29, 2010, 01:26:58 PM
Yeah, but just think, at $300 per person it would only take 29 riders to break even on a weekend! Sweet! :o
Let me see $290 for Infineon or $300 for a weekend DAY(not both) at RFR!!!! No contest
You're right, $290 track fee, mileage - 400 miles at .50 per mile is another $200, room, meals; that makes RFR a bargain. That's what you meant, right :)
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A NOTE MILLER,LAGUNA, & SEARS :
MILLER built ground up with the financial backing of an automtive sales EMPIRE!!! Larry H. Miller BURBED thousand dollar bills!!! (Check out the Salt Lake Valley drive so. down State st.. don't forget West Valley City & Sandy... and THats just in SLC ..... Theres three or four other states....)
LAGUNA built and developed over the years by LOCAL businesses & local volunteers (SCRAMP). Flagged by USARM of which I'm a member....
SEARS built and developed over the years by private local businesess (who remembers GOLDEN GATE RACEWAY?). Currently owned & operated by possibly the largest racetrack conglomerates in the country .....
How do you make a million dollars racing??
START out with TEN!! :D :D :D
Quote from: com3 on March 29, 2010, 01:35:50 PM
n10sive... that $7700 number is COMPELTELY different from what i was just sent.
i'm not going to post exact number publicly, but i will tell you that assume the TDP does not have it's own insurance, medical, or cornerworkers and they require the track to provide all three services, it's $5900 for weekday and $6900 for weekend dates. significantly less if the TDP has it's own ins, med, and flaggers.
Then you have a different quote sheet than we were provided for the all inclusive package. Our last email (to my knowledge and I am on the B.O.D. for SSA) was the $7700 price for 10 dates. I like your numbers a little bit better ;D
I am glad that the sierra sport riders are not trackday providers. This sounds like a huge mess.
Quote from: Justino on March 29, 2010, 01:44:30 PM
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Quote from: scotinexcile on March 29, 2010, 06:10:24 PM
This is a prime example of the "gossip and hearsay" until RFR get their act together and post their rates publicly then we have nothing to go from. Nothing against Dale or Joe, I am sure they were both sent the "right pricing of the moment" ;D
Sounds like they are still trying to figure things out. Wonder where it will land. But...I would say that an email from the track operators is not gossip or hearsay.
Quote from: Putz on March 29, 2010, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: Justino on March 29, 2010, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: Justino on March 29, 2010, 01:44:30 PM
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you fall over?
Fell asleep. This RFR drama is old. Everyone is too worried about whether they will get their stuff together. There are more than 6 tracks within an eight hour drive of Reno. We should focus our time going to tracks that want our business and are willing to make sure they have the amenities we need. If RFR wants to join that list they can let us know when they are willing to make improvements and step up to compete with other tracks. Till then, I'm riding THill, Miller, Infineon, Buttonwillow, and maybe Vegas, Willow Springs, and Laguna Seca.
more group trips to THILL will be fun. Would like to ride Infineon before I retire....
Quote from: n10sive on March 29, 2010, 09:55:31 PM
more group trips to THILL will be fun. Would like to ride Infineon before I retire....
Come on out with us. I post up every day I am doing. An SSA group trackday like we do at Miller would be awesome. If we planned on doing it at every track once a year that would be a blast. We might even be able to talk Keigwins or Z2 into giving us a group discount of 10 or more.
Infineon is fun, but nothing compared to Miller. It is the one track you must do before you retire.
old and slow on a SV...so I could do what...one lap a session there? LOL
30 minute sessions. You might fall asleep on the straight but you probably wouldn't have to brake for the entire track. Just hold it pinned. There were a couple SV's last year in A group running pretty good. You'd love it.
Quote from: Gangplank on April 05, 2010, 01:44:11 PM
Any update on the RFRt possibilities?
I wish. I want a trackday at RFR to open up the season for me.
Negotiation are on the way, some encouraging signs, hopefully we'll have some news in the weeks ahead.
Quote from: Team Gorgonzola on April 05, 2010, 10:10:15 PM
Negotiation are on the way, some encouraging signs, hopefully we'll have some news in the weeks ahead.
Alberto speaks the truth. Jerome, the board, and the trustees are working hard. We're very close.
We are close to finalizing one track weekend/month at Reno Fernley Racetrack!!
May - June - August - September - October. (No dates in July)
I am very much anticipating getting firm dates and pricing details in the immediate future.
That's really great news. Keep it coming!!!
It fills my heart with joy!!! Look forward to it...... ANTICIPATION IT'S MAKIN ME WAIT!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Just picked up a new track bike last week. Count myself and 2 friends in!!
Quote from: dragxs11 on April 12, 2010, 01:40:15 PM
Just picked up a new track bike last week. Count myself and 2 friends in!!
SWEET! ;D
Can't wait; just scrambling to put the trackbike back together in time.
Hello everybody!!
My name is Joao Paulo (you guys can call me JP) and I joined this group last year, almost on the end of the summer - if I recall it right - and did not have a chance to join you for a week ride neither a trackday. I had just got my ninja 250 by the time and was practicing trying to learn the basics of motorcycle riding (was my first bike, so maybe that was a good thing...lol)... But now I can't wait for may 2nd and to meet you all!! Even more... I've been dreaming with those track days and, despite the fact that I am totally newbie in this department, I am really looking forward to go to the track and give all I got! No kidding! And looks like this is getting close to happen! Fingers crossed...
Hope to see you on May2nd and good vibes to everyone!!
Quote from: Kawaninja on April 15, 2010, 12:36:12 PM
Hello everybody!!
My name is Joao Paulo (you guys can call me JP) and I joined this group last year, almost on the end of the summer - if I recall it right - and did not have a chance to join you for a week ride neither a trackday. I had just got my ninja 250 by the time and was practicing trying to learn the basics of motorcycle riding (was my first bike, so maybe that was a good thing...lol)... But now I can't wait for may 2nd and to meet you all!! Even more... I've been dreaming with those track days and, despite the fact that I am totally newbie in this department, I am really looking forward to go to the track and give all I got! No kidding! And looks like this is getting close to happen! Fingers crossed...
Hope to see you on May2nd and good vibes to everyone!!
AWESOME! we shall see you there, come up to the table and introduce yourself when you get there!
Jerome and I went out to inspect the track. There are cracks that are being addressed next week. For the most part the cracks are in the same places they have been in years previous (with some new ones present) but they should not interfere with our 'line' or corners.
The K-wall is up and even extended in some places i.e. the 'peanut'
They are still moving tires into position (and have more than enough tires barriers assembled to keep us safe)
If they need more barriers, they have hundreds loose tires they can still bolt together
the long story made short...
We will be using the track, we have reached an agreement and we are finalizing the dates.
You will be the 10th-400th to know depending on how often you check the board.
Also, this took the board and trustees a lot of effort, energy, and time and missed sleep so. . .
MAD PROPS TO MY CREW, and I MEAN ALL YALL- NorthSIIIIIIIDE
THREE CHEERS...... HAZZA, HAZZA, HAZZA !!!!! AND SOME PEOPLE WONDER WHY I'VE CALLED RFR... " GOD'S LITTLE SLICE OF HEAVEN " 'THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT , BUT THIS ONE IS MINE......."
Yeah. I'm pretty stoked about the track too. I really wish I could have ridden today just for a few hours would have been cool. Keep it Kool SSA We could be doing some dates their again this year. I can't wait to get the party started.
COPY THAT! Hey I'll bring the FLAGS............
looks like i need to get crackin on the bike!
Quote from: rick07r6 on April 16, 2010, 11:24:40 AM
looks like i need to get crackin on the bike!
thats what I'm talkin' bout! :)
LET'S GET IT DONE :o :o :o
nice work guys!!!
I am ready to get my ass kicked again at RFR.
im really glad to hear this im still looking foward to getting out on the track for the first time
as well you should!!!
That for all the hard work guys, we cant wait to get out there
Quote from: Oneup on March 29, 2010, 09:59:59 PM
Quote from: n10sive on March 29, 2010, 09:55:31 PM
more group trips to THILL will be fun. Would like to ride Infineon before I retire....
Come on out with us. I post up every day I am doing. An SSA group trackday like we do at Miller would be awesome. If we planned on doing it at every track once a year that would be a blast. We might even be able to talk Keigwins or Z2 into giving us a group discount of 10 or more.
Infineon is fun, but nothing compared to Miller. It is the one track you must do before you retire.
But the way... Did you try to do something about it? Group discount would be nice, fun and not hurt the pocket too much.
This is a great idea. Thanks Greg
It is tentative but May 22nd and 23 is the targeted first weekend.
God willing and the creek don't rise.
it's on an AFM weekend, but was the best choice for us as a club.
We hope to get final, final, final confirmation soon.
it's raining today. Hows the creeks level?
Quote from: n10sive on April 20, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
it's raining today. Hows the creeks level?
The creek is rising at a rate of 3" per hour
Quote from: Gangplank on April 20, 2010, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Justino on April 20, 2010, 12:13:17 PM
Quote from: n10sive on April 20, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
it's raining today. Hows the creeks level?
The creek is rising at a rate of 3" per hour
Might have just hit the top of the bank actually overhere.
It's not water in that creek, either.
what creek?
We should be good to go.
84 emails about this subject have been sent to me. I'm not counting the number of PM's (approx 50) or text messages (100) or phone conversations (30) and I am just one person. Lots exchanged between the executive committee
How Jerome did this largely on his own in previous years is beyond me. My hat's off to you, buddy.
I want to say how proud I am to be working with Dale, Jerome, Alberto, Johnny, Andy, and now Josh (for all the invaluable legal advice and analysis) Also, be very, very careful what nominations you accept and what positions you agree to serve. ;)
Jerome is gonna have the paypal link up very soon.
I shouldn't speak for all of us, but I feel that we're all doing this because riding at the track with all of you is just an absolute blast.
It's my hope that we can all do this for many years to come because
the best smiles I've seen are at the track
Well said Justino. :D ;)
Well said Justino..EXCEPT... I am a little surprised and saddened at the lack of appreciation shown for Youngster...yes I am the "wife" and most times I hear more than I say as I am an "observer" of people.....I generally keep my comments to myself ...BUT....but I really had to speak out on this one...our family has had so much fricken fun with SSA..most all the people are awesome and great to hang with..most are true and honest with a huge amount of integrity, they do what they say... and we have been so proud to call you all our friends...Paul loves riding and racing..he was depressed for days when he found out RFR was to be shut down...I kid you not, this man was willing to pick up garbage, sling tires, sweep the track, move concrete walls, offer any and all vehicles he had to help reform the track to standards...anything just to keep it open,... Paul talks to ANYONE and EVERYONE about SSA, motorcycles, safety, RFR, the friends, he truly is the PROMOTER, he has spent hours talking to people, phone calls, emails, texts, countless ideas.. just to encourage getting RFR opened...to encourage the "big wigs" about all the possibilities of riding RFR...what the heck Justino... I am sad to see his name was not mentioned in the THANK YOU...I know he has made an impact with helping to get this track opened...Thanks Youngster775 for all you do for SSA, thanks for all the excitement and encouragement you give to others......even tho your position was voted and approved (I remember, in a meeting) yet does not seem to be recognized as a true "Position" agh!!!!! YOU DO A GREAT JOB AS PROMOTER and being a part of SSA
I would like to say I Really Really Really appreciate all the hard work that everyone has put into this, and also the hard work
that YOUNGSTER did with the tires and ect.
I will second that everyone appreciates Paul here. I do think it was an oversight as Justino and the board have been in a flurry of discussions this last week, and in all the emails, it has been between the Executive Board only. I am sure Justino is just so used to typing out the same emails, that is what he did here. Just went through his email list.
That said, Paul IS the SSA promotions director. This is something like a committee position, and not an executive position. So what he has been doing (as described by Kim)...is the job the members asked him to do. Quite well I might add too. So atta boy Paul, but don't feel slighted as nobody is discounting the work you have done...and continue to do. Your a good egg.
There are also a few other people that have helped behind the scenes too. Beth and Alan, Luke, Justin Masalka (sp), Steve and a few others that have provided input, moral support and a beer or two :)
This has been a great effort for the SSA...as a whole!
I know I for one would like to express my appreciation for everyone that had dedicated both time and energy to getting our home track ready to ride and a negotiated deal with the track owners and operators. This includes not only our own hard working SSA but those who spent time bolting tires together to make the track safe and ridable. Everyone involved deserves a hand!!! Thank you all very much!!!
I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.
Youngster is one of the most enthusiastic supporters of the track we have, and has done everything possible to get the track open.
holy drama! frankly, i don't care who does the work... i appreciate everyone equally. :twofinger :shiteatinggrin
Course A involves "the slide" which isn't such a good idea to run downhill on a bike. We usually run course C.
Quote from: Putz on April 22, 2010, 01:46:36 PM
Course A involves "the slide" which isn't such a good idea to run downhill on a bike. We usually run course C.
or a good idea at all, considering there's only ~20ft of pavement seperating oncoming bikes... that makes both turns impact zones.
Drama, Drama...
Thanks Paul! You're the strongest man ever.
I feel bad for not giving any help. I'm available to give my labor contribution to the Track on the weekends with still necessary.
;)
i know im still new to the group and havent been able to go on any rides really yet but i want to thank everyone for all their hard work to make this possible. i have been looking foward to ridding on a track ever since my buddie let me take his bike out for the first time 4 years ago so im very anxious. if there is anything else i can do even if not major let me know. i cant wait to get some cash saved up and go out on a track for the first time and im sure it would be with everyone here at ssa! just ask anyone i know i dont shut up about this club and everything it offers. my hats off to everyone!
For everyone who hasn't seen the track in a while.........I'm really concerned about the back straight (sunset). KC and I inspected the track April 8th to find the straight extremely bad. There are no longer bumps at the end. They are waves now and that was at approx. 30 mph. Everything else was moreless the same with a few areas where the bumps grew a bit but definately rideable. Not on a race weekend. Fingers crossed that this can be sorted. I wanna ride RFR with you guys too.
Quote from: RenoRocket09 on April 22, 2010, 11:07:00 AM.Thanks Youngster775 for all you do for SSA
like in any battle, the generals get the credit for winning the war, and the soldiers just get shot
XXXXL
PM'd you my number
If you have an issue with me give me a call,
if you're having a bad day, that's cool too.
Either way, I'm sorry you're so upset.
Quote from: Justino on April 22, 2010, 12:28:50 PM
I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.
Youngster is one of the most enthusiastic supporters of the track we have, and has done everything possible to get the track open.
I concur, Paul is an up and coming, certified serious "SSA MOTORHEAD" (hey, there is a t-shirt idea!?) and the kind of enthusiasm he posses is rare and much welcomed. I know I speak for all of us on the board when I say :"great jobs Youngster and thanks for the effort". I wish you had a Ducati, I could definitely use some of that fire at the DesmoReno DOC club.
What do you mean bad day? I can't wait to ride RFR. The SSA team has done a great getting this going. Hell with out you guys doing the work the track has nothing. I'm just concerned with those certain sections of the track and the fact the 1st weekend may be on a coveted race weekend.
What was your impression of the track surface?
Drama ::) Sounds like a REAL family...
Thanks to EVERYONE!!! who has contributed in making this happen, may it be small or big and behind the scenes. I think we all agree that our little community try to do the best we can to promote, contribute and make SSA what it is...
Now, lets get this track open ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: AFM937 on April 22, 2010, 07:11:03 PM
What was your impression of the track surface?
We drove it slowly in a truck. I couldn't tell if the back straight had gotten worse, because I have never done the back straight slowly, or in a truck. I'm wondering how it would feel at speed. If I gotta take it easy through that section, I will, and then game on just before the apex.
The rest of the track were in need of repairs which they were waiting on 3 warm days in a row to get them done. Majority of repairs are on the same place that had previous repairs. The front straight has a long one that is on the left portion of the straight (I don't ride there even when passing)
What were you riding/driving and I see you only went thirty. If the bumps are far enough apart the suspension doesn't get a chance to work.
About the slide, it's only really scary if your coming down from 9C as you build a lot of speed and have to burn it off before you start dropping. Coming up in the opposite direction is a blast cuz you know you have acres of pavement in case you missjudge a bit. I've also come down it from 17C and thats cool cuz you burn off your speed early for 18C before entering the slide and it makes for a nice long right sweeper down the hill.
I don't know most of you yet all that well, but I also am truely appreciative of all the effort you guys have put into this. If there is anything I can do to help, please message me. Some of you may remember me as the guy who got hauled off in an ambulance a couple years ago on an SSA day in March. Doesn't that make you want to take all advice from me ;D
BTW, three of us are going too TH for the PTT day on May 10. We got room for one or two more if your interested. Leaving on the 9th so the cost would be $160 + chip in for fuel and motel.
Paul. Thanks for all you've done and are still doing for us. The club and the Ex-Board really appreciates your efforts. I hope you don't feel under appreciated. Your enthusiasm is what a club needs to keep everyone excited again and again every year. Like the Rookies do to all the veterans of a baseball team. Don't feel your under appreciated. Your not. Thanks again for all you've done. We all have made contributions some more than others and some less. We give what we can. It just seems sometimes we want everything to work much faster than they do. This is how you get attached to the club. Create a bond that's really hard to sever. Your pursuing your passion. Just be patient my son. Your efforts are not going unnoticed. ;)
I just joined and head the news that you guys are hosting the Reno-Fernley track days. GINORMOUS THANK YOU!!!!! You've just made my year! ^_^ That's my favorite track and I was so bummed to hear it might not be open for year. Already spread the word to SCR and Curve Unit so hopefully we can get plenty of riders to see what it's all about and get addicted. heh Have a beautiful weekend!
Quote from: pyxie on April 24, 2010, 10:49:09 AM
I just joined and head the news that you guys are hosting the Reno-Fernley track days. GINORMOUS THANK YOU!!!!! You've just made my year! ^_^ That's my favorite track and I was so bummed to hear it might not be open for year. Already spread the word to SCR and Curve Unit so hopefully we can get plenty of riders to see what it's all about and get addicted. heh Have a beautiful weekend!
Thanks for helping get the word out Pyxie!
I see an SSA and SCR event in our future! ;D You guys rock!
Quote from: Darren on April 25, 2010, 10:26:35 PM
I see an SSA and SCR event in our future!
Absolutely.
I just read your homepage and you are definitely my type of organization. Fellowship as well as safety.
I hope to meet some SCR riders soon.
Justin (with or without the 'o')
Justino, I rode the track with my 09 Kawasaki. Tried sections forward and in reverse then tried different configurations. Walked the areas I was concerned about then came to my conclusion.
Will there be any sort of instructors meeting before May 22nd?
Quote from: AFM937 on April 26, 2010, 09:19:58 PM
Will there be any sort of instructors meeting before May 22nd?
Yup. We'll keep you posted.
Aren't you racing that weekend. PM me.
Yes Eddie. We'll have our Pre-track day meeting on May 8th. (Saturday Ngiht) at La Vecchia. 7 p.m.
I'm sorry I scheduled it for the same weekend as an AFM Race. I hope you don't feel I was disrespecting you. You and all your crew of AFM Racers help us out tremendously. I felt this was the only thing to do if we wanted a date in May. None of our other dates are on those weekends. Once again Eddie I apologize.
Well, whadjaknow? All good things come to those who wait........ My source tells me that 400 ft of the SUNSET are to be resurfaced, along with other spots in the PEANUT and elsewhere..... this is to be done before the first scheduled event, now if only they can remember what day that is??? On a less sarcastic note folks, PRAY for stable warm weather so the paving work can be done!!!! Plan to be at the meetn' ifin thats OHTAY with ya'll.............seeya. ;) :D
Sounds good, hope to see you there...
I bought 2, question, I need to buy one day for my wife, and one for my brother in law. one will ride c, one b. I'm not sure which day each will ride (they will ride on opposite days). If I buy her sat and he sunday and it ends up flipping, will that be an issue?
I would suggest writing both of there names in both days comment section and I will let my wife know so we can keep track of it.
Today I was asked about riding one of those three wheeled Can Am Spiders at the SSA track day. I said that I had no idea and that I would find out. Anyone know what the rules about this would be? Let me know. I did say he could probably do the taste of the track if that was still going on.
Quote from: AFM937 on May 02, 2010, 09:42:54 PM
Today I was asked about riding one of those three wheeled Can Am Spiders at the SSA track day. I said that I had no idea and that I would find out. Anyone know what the rules about this would be? Let me know. I did say he could probably do the taste of the track if that was still going on.
I would say no as it has the wheelbase of a car and could be dangerous to the two wheeled bikes on the track. I think riding it during T.O.T would be ok though. Just my two cents.
Thats what I was thinking. I will tell him no.
If I fell down in front of it, I would feel like I was in a bad Mad Max movie.
(http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/madmax2/Pappagallo/Pappagallo2.jpg)
This would be my face
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/lematt/Blogspot/wez.jpg)
LOL
You also need to be a licensed motorcyclist to be on the track. some people who own those may not be licensed motorcyclists. Not required in all states.
It's a jet ski with wheels, so perhaps it qualifies for try the track.
That's a good one. I've haven't thought of them on a Track Day.
I would have to agree with Justino. You must have a motorcycle License. That would be the defining factor.
As for Taste of the Track Yes. I'm sure that's O. K.
as they are showing up more and more maybe another group is in order
a , b , c, 3.
Quote from: XXXXL on May 03, 2010, 06:38:45 AM
as they are showing up more and more maybe another group is in order
a , b , c, 3.
Maybe they chew tobacco and drive on an oval :P :o ;D :D
Maybe they chew tobacco and drive on an oval :P :o ;D :D
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hey! I resemble that statement! :)
Quote from: youngster775 on May 03, 2010, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: n10sive on May 03, 2010, 07:32:01 AM
Maybe they chew tobacco and drive on an oval :P :o ;D :D
hey! I resemble that statement! :)
as we all sadly know!! :-*
Youngster you got Whale Tale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: A DRAGON on May 03, 2010, 07:47:42 PM
Youngster you got Whale Tale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not a whale tale, just a little junk in the trunk.... ;D
Quote from: Gangplank on May 03, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
Party down at the Y.
ALRIGHT! GIGGITY, GIGGITY, GOO.... :-*
Maybe it's getting late. Youngster that girl is getting SEXY!!!!!! Meowwwwww. You go girl. Don't listen to anyone. You got it going onnn.
Quote from: youngster775 on May 03, 2010, 09:27:59 AM
Maybe they chew tobacco and drive on an oval :P :o ;D :D
hey! I resemble that statement! :)
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Dam...I chew tobacco.....
Hey Nice Ahhh ......"Tail" there youngster!!
Dam...I chew tobacco.....
Hey Nice Ahhh ......"Tail" there youngster!!
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why, swank ya! :D
lol back to rfr just wonderin do they have any loadin ramps? my trailer sucks and i was just going to load up in the truck.
Someone at the track will have a ramp. People are always willing to help.
Quote from: Oneup on May 06, 2010, 06:36:40 PM
Someone at the track will have a ramp. People are always willing to help.
yea ive got a ramp just really not designed for sport bikes and the truck is up in the air a lil bit. not as easy as loadin a light little dirtbike!
Wht part of town do you live in (Where is your bike?)
Quote from: Justino on May 07, 2010, 04:20:39 PM
Wht part of town do you live in (Where is your bike?)
all the way up in cold springs all the way in the back. lol yea im out there just a lil
I could probably make it happen... or maybe Myron?
You can stop by my house on your way home one day and borrow mine. I dont like it anyway. I use a 2x12, it is my favorite. It is longer. I live off of stead.
Quote from: Gangplank on May 01, 2010, 08:27:23 AM
Hi All,
I posted in this the 5/22 & 5/23 trackday thread but wanted to poast it here so people can have the other trackday dates. All are weekend dates and pretty sure they are non-racer weekends.
6/19-20
8/21-22
9/18-19
10/16-17
Should be on the calendar soon.
June 19 and 20th comflicts with the GSR supermoto races. Dame I wanted to see them. The freestyle show would of been cool too.
bkrblood if you want to just drop off all your gear a day or 2 before and ride your bike to my house the morning of the trackday Ill swing you home on the return trip. We can trow everything in my enclosed trailer. Its all setup for transporting bikes with a fold down ramp, 2 wheel chocks and pleanty of tie downs and anchors. Ill have some shade, chairs and tools to. I live up off Las Altos in Sparks if your interested?
Quote from: Gangplank on May 10, 2010, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: zipbyu on May 08, 2010, 07:29:34 AM
Quote from: Gangplank on May 01, 2010, 08:27:23 AM
Hi All,
I posted in this the 5/22 & 5/23 trackday thread but wanted to poast it here so people can have the other trackday dates. All are weekend dates and pretty sure they are non-racer weekends.
6/19-20
8/21-22
9/18-19
10/16-17
Should be on the calendar soon.
June 19 and 20th comflicts with the GSR supermoto races. Dame I wanted to see them. The freestyle show would of been cool too.
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Hmmm.... not a real hard decision for me. Track day, watch event at GSR.... repeat.
Watching?
Doing?
Do!
I was considering being in the event.
Don't forget some carpet for your Pit Area. It makes a difference. You can always find some just lying around. If you have to work on your bike it's much nicer if your on carpet. When you take off your leathers and your in your shorts and socks. Ohhhhhhhh the carpet feels so nice. For me it's a must. It makes the weekend very enjoyable. But that's just me. ;D
. . .And I always travel with a masseuse. Someone who specializes in deep tissue work.
That, and I travel with an executive assistant that can take notes for me, general ideas, inventions, new formulas and equations for pharmaceuticals or new types of skin care products, whatever comes to mind. It really helps to pull off-track peel your leathers off while your personal attache jots down ideas for an exfoliating cream.
Also, I really like to bring an armadillo.
Not just any armadillo, either. The specific armadillo I'm referring to is named 'Trevor'. Trevor gives me something to look forward too when I get the leathers off, get those chemical combinations down on paper and am just ready to relax. Trevor doubles as a wheel chock for my trailer (it's where I make him stay so no one steals him, the cute little bastard that Trevor is. For one reason or another Trevor insists on relieving himself on rugs and carpet. I kept all the hardwood flooring throughout my home even though my wife really wants carpet.
I say "Hey! Baby! If you want quality chem dry over here a couple times a week cleaning armadillo shit out from your carpets, then let's do it!'
She relents every time because that shit stinks. . . And it stains.
Jerome knows.
Jerome hates Trevor.
Even though there's a 70 inch difference, I don't think they'll ever see eye to eye.
To see Trevor is to love that little bastard. Thanks Jerome for reminding me to bring Trevor!
I love Trevor ;D
although, I't takes special solutions (expensive product) It works very well to remove armadillo feces and urine. very concentrated waste those critters carry, but nothing gets by those chemist's at ChemDry.... you too can find anything you need to solve any carpet issue by calling Quality Care ChemDry @ 331-5171. ;D
Quote from: youngster775 on May 12, 2010, 07:54:43 PM
you too can find anything you need to solve any carpet issue by calling Quality Care ChemDry @ 331-5171. ;D
WHORE
Quote from: Putz on May 12, 2010, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: youngster775 on May 12, 2010, 07:54:43 PM
you too can find anything you need to solve any carpet issue by calling Quality Care ChemDry @ 331-5171. ;D
WHORE
hehe fat whore at that! get it right!
We've historically seen dogs at the track. Every time actually. I suppose pet crackdown is a sign of the times.
Generally as long as they are on a leash they are fine. Many people bring their dogs to trackdays. Most dogs that are at trackdays are used to being around motorcycles and aren't a problem at trackdays.
Yeah!
Please, tell the coyotes, cows and raccoons stay way from the track too.
;D
They're always there...
Quote from: Gangplank on May 12, 2010, 10:31:32 PM
mmmmK. Nevermind.
Armadillers, etc. are ok.
I'm gonna bring my fish.
Fish!!! Lol. That one was the best...hahahaha
oneup. It's those Horses you want to stay away from at the Track. Their no joke. Like Justino's Trevor.
I have an electrically charged Carpet just for that little floppy eared thing.
On the serious end Dogs are O K on a leash.