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Title: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Sierra Sportbike Assn on April 06, 2008, 07:48:07 PM
  I conferred with the man, who has met with RFR management. I offered to type this up.
Here is a list of stuff you need, followed by what the other track day providers require so you can prepare for both.
 
A safe day pretty much guarantees a fun day! We all want that, so we'll start with
Protective Gear
 
*Motorcycle Jacket and Pants. Either Leather or Nylon. They do not need to zip together. (All other track day providers require one piece suits or that they zip together)
  *Sturdy gloves and Over-the-ankle boots (All other providers require motorcycle specific apparel)
*DOT approved Helmet
 *Health Insurance is required

Bike Requirements (You CAN ride to the track and do this stuff there. I've done it more than a few times.   Most of us have extra stuff if you forget anything)
 *ANTIFREEZE IS OK. Zoom Zoom does insist on removing and replacing glycol based coolant with 'Water Wetter' type stuff.  Keigwin's and Pacific Track Time lists this as "OPTIONAL"  If you are going to do a track day with Zoom, you might as well get it over with.  It's not to difficult.
  *Your tires and brakes should be in good shape.
 *Remove or tape mirrors. Painter's tape (the blue stuff) leaves no residue. Reflection of the sun can disturb your concentration as well as the riders behind you.  It's important keep your attention on what's in front of you. (No need to look over your shoulder, either)
 *Disconnect brake light and rear signals, or remove bulbs/fuse, or completely tape brake light lens. No light should be visible to riders behind you. Blinking lights are fairly distracting.  The hand signal to be used on the track will be reviewed and presented in the mandatory riders meeting
 *Taping over your headlights is only required if you have glass up there. Most bikes have plastic lenses. If you are taping your headlight it's important to know that "duct tape" reflects a lot of heat and can melt the housing. Use painters tape.
 
***Bring extra gas*** 5 gallons should suffice. I've run 170 miles on a track day (I'm sure others do more)  You'll use a LOT more gas on the track than you do on a sunday ride. 15 mpg loss isn't hard to imagine.

Other things that will make for a good day
*Lots of water/juice/sports drink. (Alcohol is not permitted)
I usually purchase these, and some lunch food just as I pull in to Fernley.  By the way, every motorcycle you see at that gas station is probably headed to the same place you are, so be friendly! Introduce yourself! :)  You might be parking next to them and hanging out with them all day.

  It's is a GREAT IDEA to use earplugs. Foam plugs for $0.25 can have a profound effect on preventing aural fatigue (and a headache)
I suggest bringing a camping chair along.
  Sunblock!  
If you forget yours, you can borrow some of mine... I don't tan, I bake like a potatoe. (Don't forget to put it on your neck). I wear a wide brimmed fishing hat and long sleeve T shirt in the pits.  Some of the folks bring "EZ-up" tents.  Befriend one of these people by admiring their motorcycle and offering them one of those cool beverage you bought at that gas station. Also, this is great time to try out that camping chair :)  

       
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: russtman on April 06, 2008, 09:22:52 PM
WELL done JUSTIN  ;D
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: russtman on April 07, 2008, 07:55:21 AM
Or should I say , well done MULE TOE.   ;D ;D ;) :D 8) ::) :o

It's all in jest brother.   LOL

Talk at ya later.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Justin on April 07, 2008, 09:07:24 PM
Mule Toe is Optional also
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: JENX!!! on April 08, 2008, 06:49:30 AM
Great info!! thanks. ;D
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Team Gorgonzola on April 08, 2008, 08:58:57 AM
If you have extra parts and a good toolbox bring it along, especially pegs and brake/clutch levers. If you have a minor lowside you can still get back out and enjoy the day like nothing happened (trust me, I know ;)) I strongly suggest taping the light and the turn signals. Imagine having the guy in front putting on the brake light and/or blinkers, I think that would be distracting.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Justin on April 09, 2008, 12:53:40 AM
All the rear lights. taped. definitely. i'll change my post
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Hank on April 10, 2008, 09:01:55 PM
I need some clarification.

I've got an '07 CBR 600RR.  Not worried about the rear lights, because they unplug with no hassle.  However, I can't unplug fuses for the front lights because the bike won't run without the light fuses.

Can I skip the taping of the front lights?  Can I run with my front lights on?  Shouldn't be a distraction since they're up front.

Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: MotoPutz on April 10, 2008, 10:53:42 PM
I believe as long as the lens is plastic you don't have to tape your front lights, and only need to tape the rear if you haven't pulled your fuses.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Justin on April 10, 2008, 11:24:30 PM
Taping any of the front is optional on your bike.  I have the same machine in black.  :)
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Justin on April 10, 2008, 11:25:12 PM
Also you can run with them on, with highbeams.  It's all good
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: A DRAGON on April 13, 2008, 10:49:20 AM
Yeah that's cool JZ. no can see you coming anyway. Back in the day they used to make you tape the front lights because they were glass. Now not so much. On my SV I just pull the fuses for the low beam then switch it on my controls to the low beam and shazzamm no lights.
Title: Any official license required?
Post by: aruz on April 17, 2008, 12:15:21 PM
Silly question but in order to use the track what it is required to have? DMV license with motorcycle endorsement, a track permit or a track experience certification of some sort?
Title: Re: Any official license required?
Post by: JeffW on April 17, 2008, 01:28:50 PM
Aruz, I think you are asking about using the RFR track outside of this trackday? If that's your question then I believe that you need a DMV license with motorcycle endorsement, and a track permit (or a racing license like one from the AFM). The track issues the track permit after you take a short riders school with them. I had a track permit at one time, but it was only good for one year.

Quote from: aruz on April 17, 2008, 12:15:21 PM
Silly question but in order to use the track what it is required to have? DMV license with motorcycle endorsement, a track permit or a track experience certification of some sort?
Title: Re: Any official license required?
Post by: Adiggity on April 17, 2008, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: aruz on April 17, 2008, 12:15:21 PM
Silly question but in order to use the track what it is required to have? DMV license with motorcycle endorsement, a track permit or a track experience certification of some sort?
Hey aruz, if you want you can call RFR with your questions. There is always someone there who answers the phone when I call. She doesn't always have the answer but she can find out and call you back.

Here is some info for that on their website.
http://reno-fernleyraceway.com/visitor_driver_info.php#road_course (http://reno-fernleyraceway.com/visitor_driver_info.php#road_course)
Title: Re: Any official license required?
Post by: aruz on April 17, 2008, 02:45:37 PM
Quote from: JeffW on April 17, 2008, 01:28:50 PM
Aruz, I think you are asking about using the RFR track outside of this trackday? If that's your question then I believe that you need a DMV license with motorcycle endorsement, and a track permit (or a racing license like one from the AFM). The track issues the track permit after you take a short riders school with them. I had a track permit at one time, but it was only good for one year.

Quote from: aruz on April 17, 2008, 12:15:21 PM
Silly question but in order to use the track what it is required to have? DMV license with motorcycle endorsement, a track permit or a track experience certification of some sort?

Actually is just for this trackday or for these kind of events organized by the SSA for that matter.
Title: Re: Any official license required?
Post by: Adiggity on April 17, 2008, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: aruz on April 17, 2008, 02:45:37 PM
Actually is just for this trackday or for these kind of events organized by the SSA for that matter.
If your asking for the SSA trackday, the only thing you need is medical insurance. Other than that, nothing is required.....except for gear and things of that sort that are listed
here. http://www.sierrasportbike.com/smf/index.php?topic=82.0 (http://www.sierrasportbike.com/smf/index.php?topic=82.0)

Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: russtman on April 17, 2008, 03:59:59 PM
Dont forget your kejones !!!!   ( thats BALLS for all yall non spanish speekin peeps )    ;D
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: MotoPutz on April 17, 2008, 05:01:35 PM
I'll ask my girlfriend if I'm allowed to have them for the day...
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Yard Sale on April 18, 2008, 09:08:04 AM
No track day provider requires it but it's a really good idea to have a fire extinguisher. At one RFR event I watched a trailer full of bikes burn to the ground, almost taking the tow vehicle with it.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: russtman on April 18, 2008, 09:23:27 AM
Thats a very, very good idea Erik.    I put that on my list to through in the trailer.

Thanks  8)
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: weavefish on May 08, 2008, 10:04:19 PM
i hope this thread still applies for junes trackday. but i was wondering if there was anything wrong with riding with a camera (on a mount ofcourse) and if there is anything special i would need to do. thanks in advance!

-Tom
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: russtman on May 08, 2008, 10:16:50 PM
Nothing special----mount and enjoy -and make sure you show all of us SSA guys.  ;D
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: A DRAGON on May 08, 2008, 11:24:47 PM
Ditto Russell. The nice part about these track days that the club is putting on. Is they are ours. As long as it's safe we can do what we want. So yes mount it up and enjoy. I'm just so happy to see all the members excited about the Track. We can even ride 2 up if we want. Of course Kye wants to ride 2 up with the passenger facing backwards. I don't think we can do that. But it would make a funny picture.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: weavefish on May 09, 2008, 07:40:25 AM
Cool! i just got my mantis mount in yesterday and wanna take some vids of the race day. thanks guys :)
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: A DRAGON on May 11, 2008, 10:20:19 PM
Mantis????????  That sounds big!!!!!!!!  I hope you get through teck.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: weavefish on May 14, 2008, 08:01:58 PM
Quote from: A DRAGON on May 11, 2008, 10:20:19 PM
Mantis????????  That sounds big!!!!!!!!  I hope you get through teck.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/132430930_31bda34873.jpg?v=0)

its pretty adjustable and easy to remove if i cant use it. i think it would be fun though.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: JENX!!! on May 14, 2008, 08:11:03 PM
safety wire the bolts so theres no way that it could be questioned.....or at the least, put some locktite on them.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: weavefish on May 15, 2008, 09:47:54 AM
Quote from: jenx1976 on May 14, 2008, 08:11:03 PM
safety wire the bolts so theres no way that it could be questioned.....or at the least, put some locktite on them.

the adjustment bolts are all peened. the only that that could come lose is the camera mounting screw so i couldt safetywire that.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Adiggity on May 15, 2008, 10:32:49 AM
Quote from: weavefish on May 15, 2008, 09:47:54 AM
the adjustment bolts are all peened. the only that that could come lose is the camera mounting screw so i couldt safetywire that.
You should be fine. As long as everything is tight and looks like it's not cheesy. (which from your pic, it definitely don't look cheesy)
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: JENX!!! on May 15, 2008, 07:18:07 PM
somebody from my work is asking....are supermoto's ok for the track day? Im assuming yes....what kind of riding gear does he need?
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: n10sive on May 15, 2008, 07:39:15 PM
they run all the time at the track. They need the same riding gear that you do for your sport bike.
See the trackday dress code.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: JENX!!! on May 15, 2008, 07:43:25 PM
Thats what i thought......Im gonna try to recruit him. thanks.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: russtman on May 15, 2008, 08:25:35 PM
Put him in C group for the slower pace that the super motards do.   :P
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: n10sive on May 15, 2008, 08:31:20 PM
HA. I have seen some motards kick some serious tail in A group. They don't do the straights as fast but they kick ass in the twisties. RFR is a great motard track :)
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: MotoPutz on June 04, 2008, 04:51:08 PM
So on my bike if I unplug the fuse for my rear running lights it kills my whole instrument cluster. I can however take the fuses out for head lights and brake lights. Is it nessesary for me to tape over my running lights since they won't be blinking?
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: MotoPutz on June 04, 2008, 05:14:28 PM
Mine will be in my truck and I will throw some electrical tape on the lights before I come. Thanks...
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Yard Sale on April 03, 2009, 10:21:26 AM
Bump! Please see first post.

I'd like to add:

Incorrect chain slack was the major technical infraction at past SSA track days. RTFM. If you can't get it just right, error on the loose side.

Clutch and brake lever ball ends should be intact, not broken off. No spiked bar ends, spiked frame sliders, spiked levers, etc.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: yzinger on April 03, 2009, 03:09:49 PM
Hey yard sale, I shaved my levers cause I liked them shorter. they are all smoothed down and gentle to the touch, but no balls  ;D Is this a problem???? PLEASE tell me I dont have to go get new levers now...
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: n10sive on April 03, 2009, 03:52:19 PM
who is doing tech that checks all that? You guys hire some AFMers?  :D
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Yard Sale on April 03, 2009, 04:08:57 PM
The ball ends on levers are there to keep you (or somebody else) from getting impaled by them.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: yzinger on April 03, 2009, 04:25:18 PM
What about the razor sharp rocks on the infield? or hitting a cement block on the front straight? Or the sharp stunning good looks of a new r6? I'm not trying to be a dick, just dont wanna have to go by levers to ride the track! I had them cut last year, and at the $75 days and it wasnt an issue... ??? ??? anyone got some foam floaties I can glue to the end  :D
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Oneup on April 03, 2009, 06:00:51 PM
Quote from: yzinger on April 03, 2009, 04:25:18 PM
What about the razor sharp rocks on the infield? or hitting a cement block on the front straight? Or the sharp stunning good looks of a new r6? I'm not trying to be a dick, just dont wanna have to go by levers to ride the track! I had them cut last year, and at the $75 days and it wasnt an issue... ??? ??? anyone got some foam floaties I can glue to the end  :D

You can try to get them past tech, but if one of us decides they are unsafe you won't be able to ride.  2stroke isn't trying to be a dick either, he is just doing what he can to make sure all of the bikes on the track are safe.  Stock levers are cheap and easy to get at the last moment, plus it's good to have spares.  Or you can buy shorty levers that have the ball on them.


Quote from: n10sive on April 03, 2009, 03:52:19 PM
who is doing tech that checks all that? You guys hire some AFMers?  :D


I believe the same people who did tech last year will be doing it again this year.  Myron, Eric, me and probably a couple of others.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: n10sive on April 03, 2009, 06:54:17 PM
hey...I have done tech before too...but somebody forgot to forward the memo on clutch levers so I let some go by! LOL

Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Yard Sale on April 03, 2009, 09:58:52 PM
There's no memo; I found this thread when searching for tech requirements. I was just making suggestions.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Yard Sale on April 08, 2009, 03:14:44 PM
Here are the requirements of the major trackday providers from the bay area:

http://zoomzoomtrackdays.com/ti/zoomzoom/showcontent.html?content=bikeprep&id=GT9QstXc

http://pacifictracktime.com/ti/ptt/content/checklist.html

http://www.keigwin.com/aboutevents_requirements.php

And here's a provider back east (can you tell they sell tires?):

http://www.sportbiketracktime.com/policies.html#bikeprep


Something else we were doing at SSA tech was taping wheel weights.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: yzinger on April 08, 2009, 04:12:02 PM
Seems the only one on here required ball ends for levers is zoom zoom. I completly agree with the wheel weight idea, and the five people coming with me will def have them taped  :P
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: zipbyu on April 08, 2009, 08:52:17 PM
Bar ends?  No spikes, that is obvious.  That can be just dangerous.  I would think that is a overlooked item by most because,  that is a trait to custom bikes back east.  more to come
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: mase on April 10, 2009, 03:15:44 PM
I'm trying to get the day off of work.  If I can get up there can I pay at check in; and if so is it the same price?
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Adiggity on April 10, 2009, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: mase on April 10, 2009, 03:15:44 PM
I'm trying to get the day off of work.  If I can get up there can I pay at check in; and if so is it the same price?
Yes you can pay at check in. You will have to contact Jerome on your other question.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: mase on April 10, 2009, 04:10:29 PM
thanks but it wont be needed.  I was able to get the day off and I just paid.

All sorts of fun
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: n10sive on April 10, 2009, 04:14:16 PM
Andy, you going to be there? You think we can do a two group format right now?
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: yzinger on April 10, 2009, 04:50:39 PM
I (and my little opinion) would support this, as long as C is there own group. How would a two-group work anywho
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: trent on April 10, 2009, 05:34:46 PM
Generally its A n B together and C on its own from my experience
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: n10sive on April 10, 2009, 06:18:10 PM
Jerome was saying registration was light...so I guess if there were a two group format, it would depend largely on how many C groupers there were. I could see doing a B-/A, but the A people have to not be so picky about encountering slower people going into 1A so the B+ people could ride in that group.

But, I am just yaking...it's all speculation right now as to what can happen.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: zipbyu on April 11, 2009, 08:20:13 AM
     C group is generally around 50% of attendance.  B group splits to around 20% to A and 80% to C.  Most of the riders that are going are local and are members, and we tend to be mostly in the B class.  I hope some of the faster B riders find there way in to A class.
     Now, mind you we don't know how many groups Jerome will decide to run.  Most of the time there is a census taken at the riders meeting.  Jerome is king though.  I have knowen him for sometime now and I can say that safety comes first.  If there is 20-30 riders in a class, you will not see to many people.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Team Gorgonzola on April 11, 2009, 10:48:26 AM
IMO 20min sessions are just fine. For B+ and A, about 6/7 laps per session, or less if you like to warm up somewhat slowly. That is as long as a sprint race on the AFM circuit if am not mistaken. If you are trying hard out there it gets tiring pretty quickly. For "C" group is safer to have a shorter session IMO. I use to think :" 20min is sooo short!!!". I am very content if I can  put together 3/4 laps going 90%+.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Raingang on June 18, 2010, 07:28:31 AM
This still acurrate?
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: CptnHornblower on June 23, 2010, 03:22:02 PM
I like to take along a cloth towel and some windex; it's easy to get the bugs off when they've been freshly applied to your face shield.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: A DRAGON on June 24, 2010, 08:45:45 AM
Yes this is still accurate.  ;)We try to make it as easy as possible  for everyone to get on the track. If you have anymore questions please just ask. If it's something your having trouble with I can give you a hand ;D ;D
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Justino on June 25, 2010, 12:27:54 AM
Quote from: CptnHornblower on June 23, 2010, 03:22:02 PM
I like to take along a cloth towel and some windex; it's easy to get the bugs off when they've been freshly applied to your face shield.
I never use windex on my face shield
Plexus all the way :)
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: A DRAGON on June 25, 2010, 03:43:04 AM
It's like candy with the SSA. Try it you'll like it.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: 2wcp on June 25, 2010, 08:04:10 AM
Plexus for some reason got really expensive. It doubled in price. I'm trying to find other products that are just as good.
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: youngster775 on June 25, 2010, 09:56:14 AM
I recently switched back to Plexus for spray-on deodorant after last bike night...
I use yama-spray for the bike  ;D
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: n10sive on June 25, 2010, 10:03:18 AM
Quote from: youngster775 on June 25, 2010, 09:56:14 AM
I recently switched back to Plexus for spray-on deodorant after last bike night...
I use yama-spray for the bike  ;D

fibber. we all know you don't wear deoderant :p

LOL
Title: Re: TRACK DAY REQUIREMENTS
Post by: Raingang on June 28, 2010, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: 2wcp on June 25, 2010, 08:04:10 AM
Plexus for some reason got really expensive. It doubled in price. I'm trying to find other products that are just as good.

Novus Plastic Polish 1. Good stuff for around 4 or 5 bucks. I like it better than plexus.
http://www.novuspolish.com/