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Title: whats he thinking
Post by: weavefish on August 04, 2008, 05:49:31 PM
Maybe he should have spent more time on a road course... maybe then he wouldnt do so bad.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Hayden+enters+Supermoto+event+at+X+Games
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Justin on August 04, 2008, 08:47:55 PM
I don't have anything against the guy, however, I refuse a lot of invitations that come my way.  Maybe he should do the same.       
PS. He withdrew because it looked too scary.
Either that, or he couldn't get another idiotic custom painted helmet in time.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: POSER 511 on August 04, 2008, 09:12:41 PM
MAN THAT IS A BIG HEAD
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: JENX!!! on August 04, 2008, 09:30:22 PM
one of these days, were gonna see him on speedtv's superbikes., stunting..... ::)
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Yard Sale on August 04, 2008, 10:48:42 PM
He withdrew because of a triple jump, among other things. A freaking triple jump in supermoto!?! My respect for #69 just went up.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Justin on August 04, 2008, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: POSER 511 on August 04, 2008, 09:12:41 PM
MAN THAT IS A BIG HEAD
Cuz my brains are HUGE!
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Justin on August 04, 2008, 10:55:52 PM
Triple jump in supermoto- Only in the Xgames   
I would have backed out, too, if i were dumb enough to have signed up.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: trent on August 05, 2008, 08:12:12 AM
I read somewhere that a lot of GP riders practice using supermoto. It is supposed to help with sliding or at least thats what the article said..
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Timegrommet on August 05, 2008, 08:29:36 AM
I'm surprised that factory Honda let him do it. they have allot of money tied up with him and if he got hurt screwing around in off season......well....  :'(   
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Oneup on August 05, 2008, 08:51:08 AM
Supermoto is great training for racing.  It is a sport that pays dividends for "backing it in" which is great on the track.  The only problem now with the smaller cc bikes you don't get an advantage for backing it in to corners.  This shows pretty big in moto gp where we once had more competitive riders on the bigger horsepower bikes with less traction control.  The smaller engines are harder for our riders to adapt to.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: nv919 on August 05, 2008, 10:06:17 AM
Quote from: Timegrommet on August 05, 2008, 08:29:36 AM
I'm surprised that factory Honda let him do it. they have allot of money tied up with him and if he got hurt screwing around in off season......well....  :'(   

He was on another Honda. I'm sure that they gave him a good talking to before hand.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: dmh2000 on August 05, 2008, 02:03:02 PM
Quote from: JENX!!! on August 04, 2008, 09:30:22 PM
one of these days, were gonna see him on speedtv's superbikes., stunting..... ::)

it won't be long if he doesn't start doing better at motogp.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Team Gorgonzola on August 05, 2008, 02:09:16 PM
Nicky Hayden is no slouch as far as Supermoto is concerned.
The guy is a self made, great, and superfast rider. He deserved respect IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related)
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Adiggity on August 05, 2008, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Team Gorgonzola on August 05, 2008, 02:09:16 PM
Nicky Hayden is no slouch as far as Supermoto is concerned.
The guy is a self made, great, and superfast rider. He deserved respect IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related)

Well said Alberto and I couldn't agree more. I wish I had a fraction of his ability when it comes to riding anything with two wheels. 
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: weavefish on August 05, 2008, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: Team Gorgonzola on August 05, 2008, 02:09:16 PM
Nicky Hayden is no slouch as far as Supermoto is concerned.
The guy is a self made, great, and superfast rider. He deserved respect IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related)

im not saying he isnt good.... if it were me instead of playing around i would focus more on GP. i mean he hasnt been doing so well...
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: n10sive on August 05, 2008, 04:32:50 PM
anyone watch or remember "Kentucky Kid". Did you happen to notice what he did in his off time from MotoGP? He rode his dirt TT track! And he won the #1 plate that year! Once upon a time, before all these 'specialists', to get the #1 plate you had to ride multiple disciplines. Nicky's dad and trainer/zen master is still from the old school.

Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: POSER 511 on August 05, 2008, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: n10sive on August 05, 2008, 04:32:50 PM
anyone watch or remember "Kentucky Kid". Did you happen to notice what he did in his off time from MotoGP? He rode his dirt TT track! And he won the #1 plate that year! Once upon a time, before all these 'specialists', to get the #1 plate you had to ride multiple disciplines. Nicky's dad and trainer/zen master is still from the old school.


i love old skool!!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: A DRAGON on August 06, 2008, 12:27:25 AM
Dave I thought you were dead. Happy to see your post.
I personally don't care what they do. I'm sure Nicky is a grown ass man and knows so much more of what he's doing than I can speculate. Besides It's not as if he's Michael Jordan and his contract says he has to not ride a motorcycle because it could damage his career. He did pull out when they said they were putting in a triple Jump with an ambulance close by.
Let's just watch and let them make all the tuff calls.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: trent on August 06, 2008, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: A DRAGON on August 06, 2008, 12:27:25 AM
I personally don't care what they do. I'm sure Nicky is a grown ass man and knows so much more of what he's doing than I can speculate. Besides It's not as if he's Michael Jordan and his contract says he has to not ride a motorcycle because it could damage his career. He did pull out when they said they were putting in a triple Jump with an ambulance close by.
Let's just watch and let them make all the tuff calls.[/b]


Can I Get An "AMEN" Brother
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Justin on August 07, 2008, 12:54:21 AM
Quote from: trent on August 06, 2008, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: A DRAGON on August 06, 2008, 12:27:25 AM
I personally don't care what they do. I'm sure Nicky is a grown ass man and knows so much more of what he's doing than I can speculate. Besides It's not as if he's Michael Jordan and his contract says he has to not ride a motorcycle because it could damage his career. He did pull out when they said they were putting in a triple Jump with an ambulance close by.
Let's just watch and let them make all the tuff calls.[/b]


Can I Get An "AMEN" Brother
I couldn't disagree with the both of you more.  An enormous value of sports is really to bring people with a common interest, and create dialogue.  I am from a place where a Bernie Goetz shot a few people of another race in a subway because he had been "mugged before." It is place that was one of the worlds most dangerous cities.  The only thing that I have ever seen tear down barriers of social status, economic disparity, and race was a group of fellows called "the yankees."   You can sit on a subway and see a man wearing a uniform, a man carrying a hard hat, and a wall street executive chat like lifelong friends discussing and also arguing about what the yankees are doing or how much AROD is worth.  Also, I am certain that Nicky Hayden has many things he is prohibited from doing in his contract. . . ie. mowing his own lawn, and using hedge clippers. 
Andy,Anyone of us would love to have 10% of his talent. . . but that doesn't mean he is immune to criticism. (about his choices or his silly helmet) :)
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: weavefish on August 07, 2008, 07:28:03 AM
Quote from: Justino on August 07, 2008, 12:54:21 AM

I couldn't disagree with the both of you more.  An enormous value of sports is really to bring people with a common interest, and create dialogue.  I am from a place where a Bernie Goetz shot a few people of another race in a subway because he had been "mugged before." It is place that was one of the worlds most dangerous cities.  The only thing that I have ever seen tear down barriers of social status, economic disparity, and race was a group of fellows called "the yankees."   You can sit on a subway and see a man wearing a uniform, a man carrying a hard hat, and a wall street executive chat like lifelong friends discussing and also arguing about what the yankees are doing or how much AROD is worth.  Also, I am certain that Nicky Hayden has many things he is prohibited from doing in his contract. . . ie. mowing his own lawn, and using hedge clippers. 
Andy,Anyone of us would love to have 10% of his talent. . . but that doesn't mean he is immune to criticism. (about his choices or his silly helmet) :)

thats what i wanted say.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: n10sive on August 07, 2008, 07:36:45 AM
people talking on a subway? Not when I have been there! You try and say hi to a New Yorker and you get the big "up your nose with a rubber hose".  ;D
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: trent on August 07, 2008, 07:42:14 AM
Quote from: Justino on August 07, 2008, 12:54:21 AM

I couldn't disagree with the both of you more.  An enormous value of sports is really to bring people with a common interest, and create dialogue.  I am from a place where a Bernie Goetz shot a few people of another race in a subway because he had been "mugged before." It is place that was one of the worlds most dangerous cities.  The only thing that I have ever seen tear down barriers of social status, economic disparity, and race was a group of fellows called "the yankees."   You can sit on a subway and see a man wearing a uniform, a man carrying a hard hat, and a wall street executive chat like lifelong friends discussing and also arguing about what the yankees are doing or how much AROD is worth.  Also, I am certain that Nicky Hayden has many things he is prohibited from doing in his contract. . . ie. mowing his own lawn, and using hedge clippers. 
Andy,Anyone of us would love to have 10% of his talent. . . but that doesn't mean he is immune to criticism. (about his choices or his silly helmet) :)


I dont disagree that sports is a common denominator shared between many people in many places. This Forum is a awesome example of that. Its like music in many ways. I also dont disagree that anyone is above criticism. I do believe that just because these guys are at "SUPERSTAR" status if you will that they dont deserve to do the things in life that they enjoy or even have the opportunity to try. They are in fact a lot like you and I (with a lot more money and a ton more skills). 

And Yes I agree his helmet is pretty Silly.....  ;D
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Justin on August 10, 2008, 04:04:38 AM
Quote from: n10sive on August 07, 2008, 07:36:45 AM
people talking on a subway? Not when I have been there! You try and say hi to a New Yorker and you get the big "up your nose with a rubber hose".  ;D
You were probably saying "hi" to other tourists.
I was the guy in uniform on that subway.

Weavefish. . . sorry I stole your thunder.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: weavefish on August 10, 2008, 09:19:55 AM
no reason to say sorry... your thunder was louder than mine :'(
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: n10sive on August 10, 2008, 10:56:32 AM
Quote from: Justino on August 10, 2008, 04:04:38 AM
You were probably saying "hi" to other tourists.
I was the guy in uniform on that subway.

Do tourists put on their makeup and panty hose on the subway?  :D
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Justin on August 11, 2008, 01:17:49 AM
Quote from: n10sive on August 10, 2008, 10:56:32 AM
Quote from: Justino on August 10, 2008, 04:04:38 AM
You were probably saying "hi" to other tourists.
I was the guy in uniform on that subway.

Do tourists put on their makeup and panty hose on the subway?  :D
Dude, . . . you wonder why she wasn't chatty?
LOL :D   I can't believe that was YOU!!! She was on a message board back east talking about the wacky tourist who was watching her get dressed.  ;)
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: n10sive on August 11, 2008, 07:42:32 AM
yep..that was me...watching the REVERSE strip show  :D :D
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Adiggity on August 11, 2008, 10:02:17 AM
Quote from: Justino on August 07, 2008, 12:54:21 AM
   Also, I am certain that Nicky Hayden has many things he is prohibited from doing in his contract. . . ie. mowing his own lawn, and using hedge clippers. 
Andy,Anyone of us would love to have 10% of his talent. . . but that doesn't mean he is immune to criticism. (about his choices or his silly helmet) :)

Never said he was immune to criticism, just it seemed like you guys were down playing his talent level on motards.

Of course athletes have restrictions in their contracts. But as a motorcycle road racer, I  think it is more common than it is uncommon for them to use dirt bikes and motards for practice and I don't see any thing wrong with that. Plus he got some more exposure for Repsol in front of potential future fans of road racing. I think the sport needs more exposure in America to attract more people to it. A lot of that is done by picking up fans from other motorsports to get some interest in road racing.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: weavefish on August 11, 2008, 10:48:40 AM
Quote from: Adiggity on August 11, 2008, 10:02:17 AM

Never said he was immune to criticism, just it seemed like you guys were down playing his talent level on motards.

Of course athletes have restrictions in their contracts. But as a motorcycle road racer, I  think it is more common than it is uncommon for them to use dirt bikes and motards for practice and I don't see any thing wrong with that. Plus he got some more exposure for Repsol in front of potential future fans of road racing. I think the sport needs more exposure in America to attract more people to it. A lot of that is done by picking up fans from other motorsports to get some interest in road racing.

i wasnt trying to down play his talent level on motards when i started this thread (although he qualed in 17th place or something like that) but if motards is how he practices maybe he should try something different, and i agree road racing needs more exposure but remember QUALITY over Quanity. like kicking ass and taking names when GP is in the US. lucky for us we had Spies and Hacking.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Adiggity on August 11, 2008, 11:10:08 AM
A championship and 2 years of consecutive wins in the U.S. GP is kicking ass. Nicky has had problems in Moto GP ever since they switched to 800's. Although I highly doubt it would happen, I'd be interested to see him make a return to the factory "production" machines and see how well he'd do, just for funzies. I'd be willing to bet he'd give Spies, Mladin / Bayliss, Haga, Corser a run.
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: Adiggity on August 11, 2008, 11:14:18 AM
Lol, I don't know, maybe it will be in his next contract to not compete in X games...

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=33632 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=33632)
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: n10sive on August 11, 2008, 04:03:49 PM
HATERS!  ;D :D :D
Title: Re: whats he thinking
Post by: A DRAGON on August 16, 2008, 10:06:01 AM
I heard an interesting suggestion. Nicki would be right at home on the Ducati because of how ruff it is to ride. It suits his riding style because of the way it was moving around under Stoner at Laguna. I thoght maybe that could be true.