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Title: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Timbo on July 30, 2008, 11:06:48 PM
I purchased a 2007 GSXR 1000 and I was wondering why it wont do a power wheelie by just rolling into the throttle. It has a TRE , BMC filter , Power commander and a yoshumara Full system the bike has 700 miles on it
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Oneup on July 30, 2008, 11:14:42 PM
Should do a power wheelie in 3rd gear.  What technique are you trying to do a power wheelie.  Are you just holding full throttle and hoping the wheel comes up?  I feel reluctant to give advice but I know my 04 has no problem lofting the front wheel. 
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Timbo on July 30, 2008, 11:18:23 PM
This bike is new to me . I`m used to the low end torque of my TLR 1000 I sold it last week in the wheels and deals
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: yzinger on July 30, 2008, 11:40:43 PM
if it is new just feel it out man. same as above: reluctant to give hints on something like that.  :-X try....buying a yamaha?  ;D
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Oneup on July 30, 2008, 11:48:54 PM
I understand what you are going through.  I sold my TLR to buy my GSXR.  Play around with it but take it easy.  It is a little harder to get the tire the first few inches off the ground than a TLR but once it comes up it comes up fast.  I tail tapped and destroyed my tail section within the first month of owning my GSXR
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Timbo on July 31, 2008, 09:08:04 AM
Ok thanks. What do you guys think about the TRE that Ivan sells does it really do anything or is it a waste of money. It does mess with the gear indicator on the new GSXR
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: MotoPutz on July 31, 2008, 09:10:52 AM
As far as the wheelie thing goes, I'm willing to bet its a body position issue more then a power issue. Just take it easy till you get a feel for the bike's power.
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Oneup on July 31, 2008, 01:02:54 PM
TRE's make a difference in power.  It tricks your bike into thinking it is in fifth or sixth gear.  Suzuki has a different map for first through third gear than it does for the other three.  When I plugged mine in it made a difference.  Also I don't have a gear indicator to mess with so it was a good buy for me.
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Team Gorgonzola on July 31, 2008, 06:28:32 PM
What does Zoran say....oh yeah "open throttle etc etc" ;D
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: JENX!!! on July 31, 2008, 06:43:05 PM
Quote from: yzinger on July 30, 2008, 11:40:43 PM
:-X try....buying a yamaha?  ;D

thats way too funny!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Johnny on July 31, 2008, 10:49:58 PM
The front end of your GSXR1000 will easily do a wheelie.  Is the power commander tuned (programmed for your bike)?  Even if it wasn't your GSXR has plenty of power.  Do you have that button/mode set to A B or C?  I don't remember but I think "A" is full power.  As far as wheelies go...  I personally don't like it when some of my buddies do it on the street with a bunch of cars and showing off in front of the girls but here's a link to wheelies in case you don't already know how to http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6656191590638402466 Anyways, be safe out there bro.  Johnny :)
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Justin on July 31, 2008, 11:11:39 PM
Screw wheelies.  They perform absolutely no purpose (unless you are in dirt or trials)
It's inefficient, and as bad for the fork seals as well as the reputation of motorcyclists.
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: nvgixxer on August 01, 2008, 06:38:10 AM
Quote from: Justino on July 31, 2008, 11:11:39 PM
Screw wheelies.  They perform absolutely no purpose (unless you are in dirt or trials)
It's inefficient, and as bad for the fork seals as well as the reputation of motorcyclists.
I agree 100% with that statement!
Here's an idea, why not head for the track or mountain twisties and LEARN how to RIDE that gixxer as it was designed/intended to be ridden!!!  :)
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: n10sive on August 01, 2008, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: nvgixxer on August 01, 2008, 06:38:10 AM
I agree 100% with that statement!
Here's an idea, why not head for the track or mountain twisties and LEARN how to RIDE that gixxer as it was designed/intended to be ridden!!!  :)

Incomplete sentence Justino... " OR BUY A UNICYCLE!" LOL
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: MotoPutz on August 01, 2008, 09:26:18 AM
Bicycles weren't designed to do trials on them either but as with any machine, we can get them to stretch the limits in all possible way. This includes learning wheelies and stoppies. No I'm not saying you should do them any time the road goes straight, but this definitely falls under the, "to each his/her own". I love wheelies, its the closest you can get to flying. I'm also an adreniline junkie that doesn't feel that skydiving is much of a thrill. Wheelies are not for the track or on a crowded road, but they do have their place. Lets not bust the kids chops for wanting to ride a wheelie.

IMO
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: trent on August 01, 2008, 09:54:14 AM
That thing should wheelie like crazy.. I just bought an 02 gsxr 1000 track bike with a stock motor and it was doing power wheelies a lot last Sat. No power commander just some micron exhaust. Back in the day I even had a 92 1100 gsxr that would wheelie on command. Its just a different power curve than your TL. I also agree that there is a time and a place for wheelies and stunting in general and its not on the streets..
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Mike Cullen on August 02, 2008, 10:16:03 AM
1. check for cops
2. check mirrors
3. check side to side
4. check for cops again
5. check avatar....
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Timbo on August 03, 2008, 12:35:16 AM
It`s not that I like doing wheelies I was just wondering why it would not pull the front wheel on a power take off . And for the twisties I live 30 miles from the Feather river canyon and 15 miles from hyw 49 to Downniville
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Justin on August 03, 2008, 08:40:28 PM
Quote from: Timbo on August 03, 2008, 12:35:16 AM
It`s not that I like doing wheelies I was just wondering why it would not pull the front wheel on a power take off .

Sorry for misunderstanding your question.  If it doesn't loft the front tire, something is wrong.  That bike should come up on it's own with ease.
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Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: n10sive on August 03, 2008, 08:56:12 PM
one thing to remember too....body position can be key. When I had my RD400 back in the day it would power wheelie very easy when I first got it. Then, after riding it a bunch I found I was anticipating the wheelie and transfered more weight forward subconsciously  to the point where I could hardly get it to wheelie at all. Others would ride my bike and literally pull it over on themselves so I knew it still had the power.
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Highlander on August 03, 2008, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: n10sive on August 03, 2008, 08:56:12 PM
one thing to remember too....body position can be key. When I had my RD400 back in the day it would power wheelie very easy when I first got it. Then, after riding it a bunch I found I was anticipating the wheelie and transfered more weight forward subconsciously  to the point where I could hardly get it to wheelie at all. Others would ride my bike and literally pull it over on themselves so I knew it still had the power.

I had an RD400 as well, do you remember the article about taking TZ750 pistons and putting them in? Had to file the ports up a bit and the rings were like baling wire I had to change them every few days, that with the DG chambers and radial head (the one with the big fins). But it was worth it wow what power, I believe it was now 465cc's it was a blast blew away just about anything on the road back then even modified kawi 900's. Yep those were the days...oh by the way the GSXR1000 '07 will power wheelie but it's higher in the RPM range 8 or 9k if you wack open the throttle or so I have been told ;)
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Timbo on August 04, 2008, 04:28:16 PM
The bike wants to come up if im on the throttle hard but it dont and also I live at 5000 ft elevation that is a big minus also
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Oneup on August 04, 2008, 05:01:57 PM
Elevation won't effect it that much.  It will still come up at 5000ft without any problem.
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: repsol71 on August 04, 2008, 05:38:11 PM
Dude, anyone can go fast in a str8 line, hit some corners and get some knee, thats what your bike was made for. :P
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: TWF on August 04, 2008, 05:45:24 PM
Quote from: Oneup on August 04, 2008, 05:01:57 PM
Elevation won't effect it that much.  It will still come up at 5000ft without any problem.
actually it will make big difference.
at see level I don't have to do nothing and it will come up in first 3 gears.
here you have to hit it right to get 1st gear up.
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Oneup on August 04, 2008, 06:19:59 PM
Quote from: TWF on August 04, 2008, 05:45:24 PM
actually it will make big difference.
at see level I don't have to do nothing and it will come up in first 3 gears.
here you have to hit it right to get 1st gear up.

I understand it makes a difference, I just remember not having any problem getting the front wheel up in first or second on my 1000 when I lived in Reno.  I thought that the newer ones would be even easier.
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: Yard Sale on August 04, 2008, 10:53:12 PM
Haha, I pulled a nice clutchless power wheelie this morning on my 29 HP WR250X.

WR250X pwns GSXR1000!

But seriously, those things come with like 17-42 gearing. That has got to be what is holding you back.
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: A DRAGON on August 05, 2008, 03:37:52 AM
Timbo how's the Jerk off CHP doing in your area? They writing everyone up left and right or what. I  got writen for 58 in a 55 by a Dildo.b]
Title: Re: 2007 GSXR 1000 wheelie question
Post by: al on August 11, 2008, 12:18:42 PM
I've seen online vids of riders doing power wheelies in first w/o slipping the clutch. Perhaps the altitude in Reno or Carson is too high and so O2 too low for this simple stunt. I've tried this with my 600 and the front end does get up a wee fraction, nothing substantial though.