I had fun at the july SSA day, so I'm going to try & come out for the SSA day on sept 26/27, probably with the Triumph 600 again.
Any advice on the mini-bowl? I'd like to focus on that turn next time.
And that damned bumpy back straight-is there any good line through that mess?
STAR school guys like to stay low all through the bowl. Dan Sewell likes to aim high toward the cone then cut down.
As for sunset straight.... Exit turn 11 aiming for the cone so you drift wide. If you are really slow and bad on the brakes just stay in the right 8 ft of the track all the way. If not, drift back over to half track so you are left of the raked (dark) asphalt. Get on the brakes where the raked asphalt starts (roll off before it). Ease off the brakes before the trench (aka railroad tracks) to gain a little more suspension, cuz you'll need it.
Here's a Zoom Zoom instructor (Shawn) on video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px8MNENmdO8
If all that fails, pin the throttle WFO and pitch it in to turn 12 at the last minute like this guy....
(http://www.seppes.com/photos/622719384_N4jCz-XL.jpg)
Yeah! What HE said :)
What bumpy section? Just kidding.Ya know I think I like some bumpy sections. Adds charachter to the track, it can improve my ability to have fun on worse tracks. 8-16 09 was my first ever track day. Plan on going Sept.
On turn 21/Bowl, Doug Polen took the low line right on the edge with a slight drift out in the middle to create a very slight double apex.
Quote from: dmh2000 on August 20, 2009, 08:54:25 AM
Doug Polen took the low line right on the edge with a slight drift out in the middle to create a very slight double apex.
Not sure what you mean...
Can you draw it?
Quote from: Putz on August 20, 2009, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: dmh2000 on August 20, 2009, 08:54:25 AM
Doug Polen took the low line right on the edge with a slight drift out in the middle to create a very slight double apex.
Not sure what you mean...
Can you draw it?
Sounds the same as the suggested way to take 2.
Are we talking about 12 or the bowl?
a lot of people talk of taking all the 180's at RFR (12, bowl, 2 etc) as double apexes. I hear that is OK for larger liter bikes, but not so good for smaller bikes like the SV's and two smokers. I noticed all the USGPRU kids just riding around them....FAST LOL
Quote from: n10sive on August 20, 2009, 09:42:42 AM
Sounds the same as the suggested way to take 2.
That is the way I take it, only I do not drift out as wide mid-corner as I do in turn two. I stay within, I'd say, 5'-6' of the inside of the track when drifting out mid-corner. Enter tight and exit tighter with a late apex. That is if we are talking about "the bowl" (turn 21). Not sure if that is the corner your talking about or not.
Quote from: Putz on August 20, 2009, 09:44:32 AM
Are we talking about 12 or the bowl?
we're talking about the bowl, cuz Polen was kinda all over the place on 12 until I sorted him out.
:D :D :D
Quote from: Putz on August 20, 2009, 09:33:32 AM
Not sure what you mean...
Can you draw it?
LOL!! This is funny, but this will show you I tried. I think you can get the idea. Don't follow this "exactly" but you asked for a pic. :D
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/dubbla95/RFRBowl.jpg)
I roughly have the same line as andy but I don't apex the turn until the last bend. So, basically, no double apexing and staying mid line until a late apex to get the drive out of the bowl.
Quote from: Adiggity on August 20, 2009, 12:26:36 PM
Quote from: Putz on August 20, 2009, 09:33:32 AM
Not sure what you mean...
Can you draw it?
LOL!! This is funny, but this will show you I tried. I think you can get the idea. Don't follow this "exactly" but you asked for a pic. :D
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/dubbla95/RFRBowl.jpg)
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i have the wobbly part down
Quote from: 99 900ss duc on August 20, 2009, 03:30:45 PM
i have the wobbly part down
Not as easy as it looks huh.
It looks like the drunken blood trail of a stabbed wino.
Quote from: Yard Sale on August 20, 2009, 04:10:00 PM
It looks like the drunken blood trail of a stabbed wino.
Hahaha, and you know that because...??
Nineteen years in San Francisco.
I shouldn't make fun of people's scrawls. Once, I was handed a note and I said, "What the hell, this guy has the penmanship of a six year old?!" Turns out he had polio.
You big meany!
So taking the low line through the bowl(T21) is the fast way? Hmmmm. I'll have to try that some more, I was double-apexing, going up high in the middle and trying to use the downhill exit to get a better drive out of there. Fun!
I'll try the center-track line at the end of sunset straight, I was pretty much staying far right, then squaring the turn off & trying to go straight over the railroad track-thing.
thanks for giving me stuff to think about!
Yeah, I thought you were talking about double apexing 12. The bowl makes more sense. I tend to square it off with a late apex in the bowl.