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Title: speed shifting
Post by: Yard Sale on August 05, 2009, 12:44:19 PM
At my last trackday some guys were not speed shifting because they did not know how.

It's just clutchless upshifting. Roll off the gas briefly and shift up without the clutch before getting back on the gas.

You don't need the clutch to shift up. (You do need it for downshifting!) It doesn't hurt your transmission and you can practice it on your streetbike. I don't recommend it for the 1-2 upshift (too much torque and too easy to get neutral).

This is how us poor folk without quickshifters get down the straights.
Title: Re: speed shifting
Post by: zipbyu on August 05, 2009, 08:26:54 PM
    That is about right.  I do speed shift down on the dirt bike often, but on the course you don't want to loose rear wheel traction, of course unless your backing it in but then you are using the clutch anyway.
Title: Re: speed shifting
Post by: Justin on August 06, 2009, 12:44:31 PM
I don't perform the clutchless down shift on the track at all.  Upshifting on the straights about 50% of the time
I'm not convinced it's faster, though. The slight decrease in throttle, as you describe, may negate the time saved from not using the clutch
Title: Re: speed shifting
Post by: reno240sx on August 06, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
I don't usually do it from 1st to 2nd, but all the other gears I do. I think it might be faster than using the clutch. I like it because not using the clutch means one less thing to think about.
Title: Re: speed shifting
Post by: MotoPutz on August 06, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
I don't really think about it so I'm not sure when I do it. I pretty fast on the clutch but I know I don't use my clutch much on my dirtbike and don't use it sometimes on my CBR. Just whatever my hands decide at the moment I guess....
Title: Re: speed shifting
Post by: Justin on August 07, 2009, 12:54:05 AM
Quote from: Putz on August 06, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
Just whatever my hands decide at the moment I guess....
That's what got the Kennedy's into so much trouble.
No means no, Luke