does anyone know?
IF you get pulled over but end up ticketless, does that go on some record and let's say you've got like 3 of these incidences and the next time it happens the cop looks at the ??record?? and say's that it's time now to pay up?
Or is it like the pullover never happen if there is no ticket?
If you are issued an official 'warning' it goes on record...otherwise it is not on the record. Cops run plates and wants/warrants on cars all the time. Often times if they are clean and the infraction is minor then they don't even bother pulling you over. Depends on the cop, his mood, and what he is fishing for. Often times a traffic stop is just an excuse to check you out further if he has some other suspicions about you...or your a hawt woman on a hawt bike LOL
There is a record of you being stopped. Always. If you get a citation or jsut a warning, PD knows about it next time they pull you over. They will never pull you over, say "bad kitty" and get back in the car and go. Dispatch will always know if it was a "cited" or "warning" traffic stop. But: for the purposes that you are probably wondering about, they average PD officer will not do the LONG process of actually researching your "warning." But remember that cops talk. if you got off on a warning, chances are he told his buddies he stopped a "sick bike and told him to chill." (unless you were on a kawi, then he probalbly felt sorry for you). sorry couldnt help it ;D which means that the next time you get pulled over they could remember you and not be so nice
Also there's a "I'll give you a break"method..I got pulled over for speeding in my truck last summer and the cop tried to say I was not wearing my seatbelt and that I should put it on before I get stoped but I did have it on and my daughter said that I did too so the cop gave me a fix-it ticket for a broke windshield and said have a nice day.They are always fishing for whatever they can get ya with...
I just talked to my work mate who was a cop for 22 years (in Cali) and he said there is no written record or a "warning". If you get pulled over by the same cop you will have an issue. And yzinger is right that they will mark down that they looked up your plates and record but they dont' keep track that you were warned so that when you get pulled over again, it does not show up.
Of course this was in Cali but I doubt they do it here, cop are notoriously lazy...
Quote from: Putz on May 19, 2008, 02:05:55 PM
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Of course this was in Cali but I doubt they do it here, cop are notoriously lazy...
Now I see why you're always working so hard...picking up the slack :D
haha. "they" are lazy. God I hope no one reads this. I am sitting in RPD right now typing it hahaha.
Quote from: yzinger on May 19, 2008, 01:44:35 PM
There is a record of you being stopped. Always.
The only thing EASILY looked up in a modern dispatch system is anything that was assigned a case number. Traffic wants/warrant checks and registration lookups are not 'tagged' with case numbers. The only thing there is is an audit trail buried deep in the database that a query was made, but not for why. It is not even accessible to a dispatcher in a manner that they could use during a traffic stop. The ONLY thing that is going to get you in trouble is a cops memory...so don't make yourself stand out in any fashion. Lots of Orwelians floating around these days ... sheesh LOL
Quote from: yzinger on May 19, 2008, 03:18:02 PM
haha. "they" are lazy. God I hope no one reads this. I am sitting in RPD right now typing it hahaha.
You work for RPD or your just there right now for some reason?
Quote from: n10sive on May 19, 2008, 04:18:45 PM
Lots of Orwelians floating around these days ... sheesh LOL
Wow, that comment lost me...
Quote from: Putz on May 19, 2008, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: n10sive on May 19, 2008, 04:18:45 PM
Lots of Orwelians floating around these days ... sheesh LOL
Wow, that comment lost me...
LOL. I knew I was going to show my age on that one :) George Orwell wrote a book, "1984: about Big Brother. Orwellians are those that wear aluminum hats to keep the government from reading their thoughts ;)
i do a bit of Law enfforcement myself and when we pull someone over and run there plates and license you only get prior tickets and registration info. so dont worry about warnings but dont be suprised if the same cop pulls you over and remembers... i can remeber warnings that i have given for a few months :o
Quote from: Putz on May 19, 2008, 04:22:28 PM
You work for RPD or your just there right now for some reason?
I work in the Fraud division of RPD.
oh the example I have been trying to remember. a guy on a "certain colored bike" kept running from da 5-0 around UNR. he did this SEVERAL times. well, not only did he get himself in a lot of trouble because the cops remembered him, but he also go other people in more trouble that had the same "certain colored bike."
What did you do anyway to get warned?
This time... semi heavy traffic so I swerved in-n-out, not really bad just to leave those cars behind that cannot hold a straight line driving. You know, the one's that chat on phones and dont pay attention or coming in and out of their lane's for whatever reason, go on their brakes for no reason, fail to use blinkers... all those that can get you into trouble.
To him it's swerving, to me it's staying out of car's way.
Strangely though, that cop car was unmarked, just plain dark blue, an SUV type vehicle.
Last time it was knee dragging, being too fast. The time before that, absolutely no reason at all, had to show the papers,was told to take care and take it easy on the fun part. I really wanted to get away so I did'nt ask why he had stopped me.
nice. well it sounds like you have got lucky tho. My excuse, if I never need it, is "officer, you can give me a ticket for swerving in and out of lanes, however I am going to do it again as soon as we are done. After all, it keeps me alive."
yeah, I wish there was some common sense left sometimes. I like to reason things out, that usually comes up with the best possible solution since you've got the other persons input. I dont do well being told to obey something that's halfways stupid or having my point negated completely. The "I'm the Law and you do as I say"! That usually comes from cops that dont ride themselves. But Hey.... no ticket, @the end of the day I cannot complain. Considering all, I got off easy and do appreciate that.
Maybe you guys can clear something up for me..........I have read varying things to do and things not to do, when having just been pulled over.
Do you stay on your parked bike until the officer asks you to dismount? How about the helmet, leave it on until asked to do otherwise? And................??
I've been pulled over a couple times, never ticketed, and I stay on my bike, engine off, helmet on. I only dismount if asked for reg and insurence. Oh and I unplug the speackers from my helmet so I can hear them bitch me out.
when you get stopped, immediatly turn off the bike and put the kickstand down. next, step off of the bike and begin to take your helmet off (by this time the officer should be there). the reason you want to get off, turn off, etc is it shows the cop you have no intention of running. then do what he says. every officer is different, but this is a good base to follow. some cops make you take the key out, etc. also, taking the helmet off shows the officer your face. This helps because it will ease the cops subconscious which could possibly think you have something to hide by not taking it off.
Ok it appears I need to clear a few things up....most of you know what I do for a living...if you don't just ask, there is a a pretty good size group of cops that ride sportbikes, if you are lucky enough to get pulled over by one of them your chances of getting off with a warning are good, if you have all the proper paper work and a valid license, your chances get better, if you were only speeding at 10-15 over and not splitting lanes or riding reckless, your chances are really good. Believe it or not the real cops (not the lazy ones) are looking for the warrant arrest or the criminal, or they want to catch the rider that tried to run.
Good cops, even the ones that ride sportbikes, have no problem writting the huge ticket and taking your motorcycle or even arresting you for reckless riding if they can articulate it. My advice on this is be cool in town, cruise with the flow of traffic, try to avoid weaving in and out and calling their attention to you.
Now as far as when you get pulled over....yes, turn your bike off and you can take your helmet off as soon as possible but stay on your bike, leave the kick stand up. This shows the cops that your intention is to stay and not run either on the bike or on foot. If they ask you to get off then get off, you probably will have to anyway to retrieve your paperwork. This goes back to the old biker gang members that couldn't out run the cops so they would always put the kickstand down and jump off their bikes to fight or run on foot, but they always put the kickstand down to keep the bike from falling over. Cops know that you could most likely just twist the throttle and disappear from them and believe it or not they appreciate when you stop. It creates less paperwork and headache.
Also, don't argue... the place for that is in the court room. If you do get a ticket, always go in front of the judge, or meet with the prosecuting DA, if your try to defend yourself without bagging on the cops you'll most likely be able to get a reduction in the fine or even get the whole thing dismissed, if you agree to go to traffic school.
Most cops (CHP in Montery excluded) don't have a big problem if your doing your thing out away from every one up in the mountains or out in the desert. If you ride like a fool in school zones or near large groups of people downtown you will pay the price.
One thing I have learned is that you must be willing to pay if you want to play...(I've been there, too).
Mike. Helmet off, yes. . . but kickstand up?
I never would have figured that rationale on my own.
Thanks for the insight.
Mike, I am guessing your avatar is you pulling a wheelie. ??? ??? ???
[bMike thanks for speaking up I thought you were dead. ][/b]
No, I didn't die, just been building my house (still) but all is good I was planning on hitting the bike night tonight but apparently it's raining, anyway........ that is me pulling a wheelie, on a closed highway.
ok mike since you hinted at what you do for a living but didnt say it... ill entertain your want for someone to ask... WHAT DO YOU FOR A LIVING?? ;D
on subject of the thread. ive been pulled over a number of times on my bike and have only received a ticket for not having a motorcycle endorsement (was a while ago, i finally got legal last fall). every other time it was for just doing the normal defensive tactics in traffic or going 80 on an empty 395 at night or 50 on an open country road(15 over). i must have been lucky because i keep getting cops that are pretty chill about it. they seem to be happy that i actually pulled over instead of opening it up and dissappearing. they check my reg/insurance/DL and they are satisfied knowing i was not drinking and aware of what i was doing.... i seem to get lucky that way often. i talked my way out of a ticket after a cop noticed i was speeding in my diesel pickup last summer. he didnt figure out how fast i was going but i came up on him very quickly... i was pulling like 120. he seemed to be more impressed that a 4x4 dodge diesel could go that fast... i chuckled and mentioned 'low 13's in the 1/4 mile'. oh well. luck wears quick. i dont really speed and i never drive recklessly(which is more than i can say for a couple of my other 2 wheeled friends whom i ride with occasionally). other than the occasional wheelie and the 3 digit speed verification check im a pretty mild rider. i started riding to save $$ on gas, not to get shoveled up off the road
one thing about luck is it will run out someday and you can only hope that the cop is understanding so many times. so ride safe pizza your wallet will thank you.
Quote from: pizza on May 27, 2008, 11:37:22 PM
i was speeding in my diesel pickup last summer. he didnt figure out how fast i was going but i came up on him very quickly... i was pulling like 120.
i dont really speed and i never drive recklessly(which is more than i can say for a couple of my other 2 wheeled friends whom i ride with occasionally). other than the occasional wheelie and the 3 digit speed verification check im a pretty mild rider.
:D :D I just had to laugh when I read this. *cough, cough* triple digit speed
is reckless driving...*cough, cough* ;)
Quote from: Adiggity on May 28, 2008, 08:25:19 AM
Quote from: pizza on May 27, 2008, 11:37:22 PM
i was speeding in my diesel pickup last summer. he didnt figure out how fast i was going but i came up on him very quickly... i was pulling like 120.
i dont really speed and i never drive recklessly(which is more than i can say for a couple of my other 2 wheeled friends whom i ride with occasionally). other than the occasional wheelie and the 3 digit speed verification check im a pretty mild rider.
:D :D I just had to laugh when I read this. *cough, cough* triple digit speed is reckless driving...*cough, cough* ;)
im glad you got entertainment out of that!!!i know that i had a pretty serious grin on my face when i was doing it!! hahaha